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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Zaki90 on Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:59 pm

Ghangis Khan and Hitler.

Both dominated

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Angatar on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:01 pm

Are you kidding? Hitler? Are you retarded?

Oh wai...

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Zaki90 on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:25 pm

Angatar wrote:Are you kidding? Hitler? Are you retarded?

Oh wai...


Hitler almost controlled all of Europe and nearly destroyed England. He also got lots of people to kill 6 million Jews for the some crazy reason. He had some pretty insane leadership skills.

He could of made a man jump off a cliff for no reason execpt to furfill a "final solution".

And fixed the German economy in almost 6 years.

... He did all of this in 6 years even though Germany lost land during the Treaty of Versasslis (spelling), German government was broke, and the great deppression had deep effect on everyone.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Angatar on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:42 pm

He beat Poland with a surprise attack.
He attacked Belgium to get to France.
France auto-loses.
He broke a treaty with Russia.

He was a great conqueror, as he just attacked random countries for no real reason.

Germany lost because of Hitler.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Zaki90 on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:57 pm

Angatar wrote:He beat Poland with a surprise attack.
He attacked Belgium to get to France.
France auto-loses.
He broke a treaty with Russia.

He was a great conqueror, as he just attacked random countries for no real reason.

Germany lost because of Hitler.


He was crazy. He just felt like attacking. Probably the drugs.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by BBJynne on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:29 am

he attacked Russia because it had such a high population of Jews and Slavs, both of which he HATED

that's my view

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Cheese on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:36 am

Lets not forget that he hated communists.

Oh Van der Lubbe. You have an awesome name.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by TNine on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:36 am

Genghis Khan overcame much larger forces, and had much more land than Hitler. He also wasn't absoultely insane.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Elabajaba on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:43 am

Angatar wrote:
TNine wrote:One of Genghis Khan's Generals, Tsubodai, routed a 12,000 man army with 750 men.

More with just Genghis, i don't believe Genghis has ever been in control and lost a battle.

I think I'm the greatest general, as in Medieval II: Total War I routed a full army from the late game with 3 battalions of peasents.


Pssh, that's nothing. I've killed about 1200 enemies of a higher tech level with only like 150 guys. (by 1200 I mean about 1500, and by 150, I mean about 300, but they did suck)

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Angatar on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:52 am

So you exaggerated? Congrats.

When I say I did it, they actually did. 3 battalions of peasents v. Feudal Knights, Dismounted Feudal Knights, Yeoman Archers, and Heavy Levy Men should not end well for the peasents, but it did!

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Dud Doodoo on Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:30 am

Siege battles don't count.

My point still stands that Ghangis Khan fought and won less battles than Napoleon. Napoleon only lost ONE battle, and that was with terrible health.

Also consider that; Ghangis Khan, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, and Hitler were all fighting technologically inferior opponents.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by BBJynne on Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:57 am

last I checked, Ghangis Khan was using nomads (with awesome tactics and strategy) against the most high-end armies of the day.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:25 am

Their weaponry was superior. The mongol bow, and their cavalry tactics outmatched almost every army the mongols face. The only reason the mongol empire fell was because of the plague

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by Felix on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:36 am

dragoon9105 wrote:Their weaponry was superior. The mongol bow, and their cavalry tactics outmatched almost every army the mongols face. The only reason the mongol empire fell was because of the plague


Actually, the mongols used inferior weapons to the chinese, but they used supperior tactics.

The main reason the mongols fell, was because they became "civilized" and lost their barbarian heritage basically.

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Re: Greatest Conquerer in History

Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:41 am

No the plague decimating them, your thinking of the huns who became "civilized". The mongols kept their empire until the black death appeared. Then their empire crumbled essentially.

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