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Re: Islam

Post by Rotaretilbo on Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:32 pm

If it were 1935 and I had full cooperation of the German military and people, I could conquer the whole of Europe in four years. I would take the same sort of opening that Hitler did (on the advice of his generals and the Schliefen Plan), hitting Poland and France. I would not be allying with Russia, though. However, I would have marched all the way to Dunkirk and likely cut the British Army in half. Then, I would launch a giant air war against Britian, focused only on AAA and airfields. The RAF would be crushed (just like it would have been if Hitler hadn't redirected the air campaign against civilian targets), and Britian would have been invaded and fallen shortly thereafter, having a very small army after their total defeat at Dunkirk and no air force to speak of.

Then I would turn my attention east, and begin a campaign into Russia. My troops would be outfitted with winter gear, and since I never insisted on giving Russia full access to my manufacturing equipment and plans, I wouldn't come up against T-34s, which would be impossible to make without German tools. Moscow would likely fall in the first year, and Stalingrad right after that. I wouldn't split my forces to make it go faster, since I'd understand that patience is key to actually winning.

By the time America got its isolationist ass into gear, it would have nowhere to stage a massive landing into Europe from. It might try North Africa, but my top general, Erwin Rommel, would have the best supplies and constant reinforcements, and I wouldn't have to worry about the British Navy making trouble in the Mediterranean, since it had already fallen. Any American incursions into Europe would ultimately fail. Not even Patton could correct a situation. Their best hope would be to attempt a landing in Spain, but Spain would already be under the control of a friendly dictator.

At this point, I'd likely betray Italy and Spain and set up puppet governments, as I had already done in France, Poland, and Russia. I would then stage landings into North America through Mexico, promising them that they can have back all the territory America forced them to sell.

America would be a tougher nut to crack than Europe, having had time to prepare its defenses, but Sherman tanks would be no match for anything my troops would be driving, and eventually, America would fall.

And then, I'd push further east, into China and Japan. I'm not a fan of the Japanese, especially during this era. They are practically barbarians with guns and planes. However, by this point, the Jews, who I didn't drive out of Germany, would have perfected atomic weapons. Einstein, one of my close advisors, would be working with other top German scientists, and while Einstein worked on nuclear power plants, the others would perfect nuclear weapons. I'd probably sink Japan, since it is of no strategic use (so, probably nuke every major city and then pretend like it isn't there). And then, I could push down into Africa and retake all the colonies that used to be German before World War I, and then into South America.

Bang, world conquered. Time taken? Maybe eight or nine years. Casualties? Massive. Friendly casualties? Not so massive.

Hitler was in the perfect position to take over the entire world with almost no resistance, and he blew, even though he got ten chances to make it work.

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Re: Islam

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:26 am

Ehm... Rot?

You forgot certain points...

Like taking the designs for the Messerschmidt 282, Sturmgewehr-44, Panzerschrek, Tiger tanks, Tabun/Sarin gas, and T-34, and then giving them to the Germans in '38.

Oh, and stockpile as much tungsten as you could get by '40.

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Re: Islam

Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:32 am

I'd actually probably redesign the Tiger slightly so that it shared common parts with other tanks, so that if it broke down, parts from other tanks could be salvaged and used to repair it.

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Re: Islam

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:46 am

Rotaretilbo wrote:I'd actually probably redesign the Tiger slightly so that it shared common parts with other tanks, so that if it broke down, parts from other tanks could be salvaged and used to repair it.

True, you'd have to do that.

But you'd also need a decent way to transport those tanks across Poland and the Ukraine, and most of Russia, so they don't wear out.

Oh, and get Nikita Kruschev on the payroll, and have him ship a quarter of the USSR's industrial capacity WEST, not east.

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Re: Islam

Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:37 am

Heh. Always did like him. Better than Stalin...

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Re: Islam

Post by BBJynne on Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:26 pm

You could also tell Japan to attack the American carriers instead of battleships while they were in port.
(that being to wait a bit since they weren't there)

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Re: Islam

Post by dragoon9105 on Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:15 pm

The japanese didnt know about the US carriers going away, the pilots were suprised that they were gone when they arrived, battleships and aircraft carriers were the primary targets. Instead of carriers the japanese aircraft went after support ships and converged more on the battleships.

Plus we wanted pearl habor the happen, well at least someone did.

Otherwise i doubt the CO's would just give the order to lock up all machine guns and AAA on the battleships becuase they were afraid of "sabotage". If someone is going to plant a bomb on a ship i dont think they are going to rig a machine gun turrent to explode or something of that nature when they can say blow up the ships gunpowder room.

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Re: Islam

Post by kslidz on Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:12 am

you wouldnt have Einstein seeing as he has a staunch pacifist
and the only reason he helped with the atom bomb was that he knew germany was totally evil

the biggest blunder hitler made from a christian perspective was killing jews

then God no matter who you are will put the smackdown on you through impossible tasks

like some kind of crazy ass revolt that worked and a faster developed atom bomb or something

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Re: Islam

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:49 am

BBJynne wrote:You could also tell Japan to attack the American carriers instead of battleships while they were in port.
(that being to wait a bit since they weren't there)

Not going to happen.
I'll wait for Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and then I'll declare war upon them. Hopefully, by sinking enough of their ships through U-boat attacks, I will keep the Americans out of the war.

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Plus we wanted pearl habor the happen, well at least someone did.

Otherwise i doubt the CO's would just give the order to lock up all machine guns and AAA on the battleships becuase they were afraid of "sabotage". If someone is going to plant a bomb on a ship i dont think they are going to rig a machine gun turrent to explode or something of that nature when they can say blow up the ships gunpowder room.

If that's true...

Then how did we know the Japanese would attack on that very day... when they could attack any time, and maybe not at all?

How would we know that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor... when the Philippines or Guam were more likely targets?

And machine guns are so much more easy to get to than a gunpowder room, for saboteurs.

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Re: Islam

Post by R!zZle BiZzl£ on Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:04 pm

Talking about Islam,the actual word Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. So basically Islam is all about peace and submitting your will to Allah.

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