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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Kislany on Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:58 am

Ukurse wrote:The reason most European influenced (England, USA, Australia Etc) Countries don't win against gorilla warfare is because we use chivalry.
Well, not really, but we follow the basic idea of it.
We could blow up the country, but we don't, because there are innocent civilian, well there are heaps of other countries that couldn't care if there are innocent civilians in the area they will blow up, just as long as those innocents belong to the opposing Countries/Force's, then it is fine because they know it will have an impact on the Government.

i agree....
this is why we never got anywhere with fighting these people....

unlike some cultures we have a higher moral code then them
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Gauz on Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:07 pm

Human rights has impacted this world so...

How do you get rid of your enemies? Get rid of everything that supports them, there recources, everything. Lacerate the arm that feeds them, and destroy all connection the enemies have to what they need. Include the country as a whole...

Or you can simply destroy the whole population.. If you don't have a enemy, who is there to fight? Or even better, if you don't have a population, who is there to recruit? Total destruction and annihilation works fine...
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by PiEdude on Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:53 pm

Iwo Jima is a good example as to why total destruction doesn't work.

They U.S. Navy literally turned the surface into ash, and the Japs just hid in bunkers and tunnels.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Kislany on Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:57 pm

PiEman wrote:Iwo Jima is a good example as to why total destruction doesn't work.

They U.S. Navy literally turned the surface into ash, and the Japs just hid in bunkers and tunnels.

this happened in vietnam to....

and this does make it hard to get them if they are hiding out
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Angatar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:14 pm

PiEman wrote:Iwo Jima is a good example as to why total destruction doesn't work.

They U.S. Navy literally turned the surface into ash, and the Japs just hid in bunkers and tunnels.
We have new weapons that can kill everything in tunnels.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:39 pm

Angatar wrote:
PiEman wrote:Iwo Jima is a good example as to why total destruction doesn't work.

They U.S. Navy literally turned the surface into ash, and the Japs just hid in bunkers and tunnels.
We have new weapons that can kill everything in tunnels.


Thermobaric bombs
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by PiEdude on Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:10 pm

We didn't have them at the time.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Angatar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:01 pm

PiEman wrote:We didn't have them at the time.
But we do now.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by PiEdude on Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:09 pm

The point of this thread was more based off Vietnam.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by kslidz on Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:50 pm

napalm and firebombs

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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by BBJynne on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:21 pm

Angatar wrote:
PiEman wrote:We didn't have them at the time.
But we do now.

This [weapon] is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it.

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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by dragoon9105 on Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:29 pm

and piss of a group of invincible pop idols with guns ships and explosives, i dont think so.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Angatar on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:13 pm

PiEman wrote:The point of this thread was more based off Vietnam.
We can't fight in the past, so it's useless.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by PiEdude on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:51 pm

BBJynne wrote:
Angatar wrote:
PiEman wrote:We didn't have them at the time.
But we do now.

This [weapon] is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it.

The problem is, on what?

To destroy a tunnel, you have to know where the mouth is, and in Afganistan, the mountains have more cavelike structures, and are not as intricately connected.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by BBJynne on Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:53 pm

PiEman wrote:on what?

An entire sector.
Fear will keep the rebels in line.

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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Jamiesway on Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:11 pm

kill
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:49 pm

PiEman wrote:

To destroy a tunnel, you have to know where the mouth is, and in Afganistan, the mountains have more cavelike structures, and are not as intricately connected.

um you are aware they use thermobaric bombs on afghani tunnels right?

really the bomb can actually burst down through the ground like a bunker buster and then explode out.

besides, we have satallites that can get us a map of the tunnels since they're very basic and not specially designed to not show up.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Zaki90 on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:30 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:

To destroy a tunnel, you have to know where the mouth is, and in Afganistan, the mountains have more cavelike structures, and are not as intricately connected.

um you are aware they use thermobaric bombs on afghani tunnels right?

really the bomb can actually burst down through the ground like a bunker buster and then explode out.

besides, we have satallites that can get us a map of the tunnels since they're very basic and not specially designed to not show up.

Satallites can't map tunnels.

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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Gauz on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:33 pm

but they can map me directly to your mothers house..
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by KristallNacht on Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:33 pm

Zaki90 wrote:

Satallites can't map tunnels.

since when?

you are aware we have satellites that essentially 'x-ray' the planets surface right?
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by PiEdude on Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:11 am

NT's right, they use radar.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Zaki90 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:50 am

KristallNacht wrote:
Zaki90 wrote:

Satallites can't map tunnels.

since when?

you are aware we have satellites that essentially 'x-ray' the planets surface right?

The surface...

not underground tunnels.

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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:29 pm

PiEman wrote:NT's right, they use radar.
Im pretty sure they dont use RADAR, the large wavelength of the signals is not good when compounded with the fact that there are tons of large solid obstacles in the way of the tunnels.

Maybe a different form of EM Detection would work? You need something with the power to go through the surface of the earth, but then bounce off of something underneath and come back for any form of conventional radar to work.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by KristallNacht on Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:14 am

Zaki90 wrote:
The surface...

not underground tunnels.

wow. yes please, argue symantecs. Last time I checked x-ray doesn't stop at your skin, so this 'xray' won't stop at the first layer of dirt.
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Re: Guerilla Warfare

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:59 am

Im positive its not RADAR like Pie said.
Maybe another from of EM scan/detection, but not RADAR, too large of wavelength.
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