Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

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Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by KristallNacht on Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:53 am

http://www.ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_to_misinform_public.html

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by L0d3x on Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:47 am

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by PiEdude on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:29 pm

Why can't I say both "yes" and "fuck Fox"?

They're basically the same answer anyway.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Cheese on Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:44 pm

PiEman wrote:Why can't I say both "yes" and "fuck Fox"?

They're basically the same answer anyway.


My sentiments exactly

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:39 pm

lol. Fox sux

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by BBJynne on Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:49 pm

The press has the freedom to say what it wants

it should not be illegal to do that


I do think people should stop watching news programs that lie though






honorable news programs should have more viewers

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:57 pm

Its not legal to spread false information, or something like that anyways. Says so in the Bill of Rights

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by ReconToaster on Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:33 pm

BBJynne wrote:The press has the freedom to say what it wants

it should not be illegal to do that


This is true. We can't make it something that corporations are legally bound to. However, what we can do, is create a Federal News License. Those who apply for a license would be legally bound to present the news in a truthful manner. News Networks that do not have a license won't be 'looked after,' but they also would not be taken at all seriously by the viewing public.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Dud Doodoo on Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:51 pm

I agree with Toaster. (for once)

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:02 pm

If we create such a law, then CNN would get hammered as hard as Fox.

What is lying? Is it saying that Russia is not invading Chechnya when it is? Is it refusing to disclose your sources, when you're revealing government secrets? Is it saying "9-11 was an inside job" when all you have going for you is half-cooked conspiracy theories and a seemingly incompetent president inside the White House? Is it ignoring the President's affairs, because "That's his personal life"? Is it hammering a presidential candidate for not correcting an audience member who refers to the opposing candidate as a "Filthy raghead", but ignoring the guy a week later when that very same candidate tells an audience member "He's not an Arab. He is simply someone I disagree with."

So, where do you draw the line on 'lying'?
The problem is, journalists have NO MORAL CODE. Not like doctors. They are out to sell stories and sell copies. That's why you have articles about Bo the First Dog and the fact that Obama swatted a fly that landed on him during an interview, which is funny because Lincoln had a run-in with a fly as well.

That's why I am opposed to an outright ban on 'lying'. Because I know it wouldn't be enforced, wouldn't be evenly applied, and would be too vague.

If I was in charge, however, you'd definitely see a journalistic code of ethics being applied.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by ReconToaster on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:05 pm

Well I think there is already an unofficial Journalistic code. I think saying that Journalists employ no ethics is going a bit far...

Watching that video, it seems more like it's the father corporatiions who have no journalistic morals. Still, I can certainly see some fields where there are none... like celebrity gossip, and crap like that.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Cheese on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:16 pm

ReconToaster wrote:Well I think there is already an unofficial Journalistic code. I think saying that Journalists employ no ethics is going a bit far...


In the UK there is an official self-regulatory code that can be read here. This is written by the main editors and adhered to throughout the country. The beauty of this system is that while it does not 'have' to be followed because breaking it would not break any laws, it prevents the necessity for new laws to be put into place. It's a very similar system to our censorship of films, games etc.

As of now, nobody has defaulted on the code - and if they have by accident, they have apologised in a further release. As you can see, accuracy is number one on the list.

This is for newspapers, but I'm pretty sure the news programmes are the same.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Vigil on Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:59 pm

I think the media should be restrained a bit, when it comes to bending the truth.

Case and point here and the U.K there was a lot of controversy about the MMR Jab. Controversy the Media created.

One scientist did a very small study, and concluded that it was linked to Autism. Now, most of the Scientific community, then and even to this day, have pointed out he was wrong. It has been proved time and time again.

So why is it still controversal, causing parents to boycott the vaccination, and risk a measles epidemic?

Because the media found this and blew it out of proportion. They never showed the other side of the argument, the never showed how small his investigation was, and even now they making it sound like a risk, even though it's completely harmless.

If there is a epidemic, the blood of those children are on their hands.

That is why the media was be better controlled to make them tell the truth, or at least balance their stories.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:07 pm

the media (anything that is under U.S. law anyways) cannot legally state something that is false as fact; however, they can choose to omit some information, which they almost always do.

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Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

Post by Gauz on Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:18 pm

Opinions are gaaay

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