Re: Should it be illegal for the news to lie?

by Carcarius on Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:27 am

and i thought wall street was corrupt.

by KristallNacht on Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:21 am

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
That's why I am opposed to an outright ban on 'lying'. Because I know it wouldn't be enforced, wouldn't be evenly applied, and would be too vague.

well 'lie' was jsut a word to make the title fit.

It mostly means "intentionally reporting information that is KNOWN TO BE FALSE, or purposefully misleading viewers."

by Dud Doodoo on Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:51 pm

The best idea is to have the news as a tax funded resource, like the library. It wouldn't be government controlled, but it wouldn't matter how many papers it sold or how many views it got, and it's job would simply be to deliver truthful news. Since they are not just trying to make money off of their stories they have much more obligation to make them true.

by ReconToaster on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:12 pm

Dud Doodoo wrote:The best idea is to have the news as a tax funded resource, like the library. It wouldn't be government controlled, but it wouldn't matter how many papers it sold or how many views it got, and it's job would simply be to deliver truthful news. Since they are not just trying to make money off of their stories they have much more obligation to make them true.

The BBC is tax funded in the UK. It's probably one of the most trustworthy news sources around.

by Cheese on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:24 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Dud Doodoo wrote:The best idea is to have the news as a tax funded resource, like the library. It wouldn't be government controlled, but it wouldn't matter how many papers it sold or how many views it got, and it's job would simply be to deliver truthful news. Since they are not just trying to make money off of their stories they have much more obligation to make them true.

The BBC is tax funded in the UK. It's probably one of the most trustworthy news sources around.

Well it's more a of a separate license, but yeah. You don't have to pay it - but if you don't and you watch the BBC you get fined.

by Gauz on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:30 pm

I think it should be illegal for everyone to lie...

by **Vigil** on Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:56 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Dud Doodoo wrote:The best idea is to have the news as a tax funded resource, like the library. It wouldn't be government controlled, but it wouldn't matter how many papers it sold or how many views it got, and it's job would simply be to deliver truthful news. Since they are not just trying to make money off of their stories they have much more obligation to make them true.

The BBC is tax funded in the UK. It's probably one of the most trustworthy news sources around.

Even though they spread that MMR Lies like Wildfire.

by Ringleader on Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:48 pm

All news networks distort the truth, not Just Fox, as with almost everything it's a business, and you can really only cater to a certain group (not to say they don't know how to maximize their viewing profile), but really, all networks spin the truth.

novamov.com novamov.com/video/49a5a75c73f7c

by czar on Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:32 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
BBJynne wrote:The press has the freedom to say what it wants

it should not be illegal to do that

This is true. We can't make it something that corporations are legally bound to. However, what we can do, is create a Federal News License. Those who apply for a license would be legally bound to present the news in a truthful manner. News Networks that do not have a license won't be 'looked after,' but they also would not be taken at all seriously by the viewing public.

1000% agree

+1 internets

by ReconToaster on Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:36 pm

Ringleader wrote:All news networks distort the truth, not Just Fox, as with almost everything it's a business, and you can really only cater to a certain group (not to say they don't know how to maximize their viewing profile), but really, all networks spin the truth.

novamov.com novamov.com/video/49a5a75c73f7c

LOL! Did you just link to Zeitgeist? Prepare to face some feedback.

All News Networks DO distort the truth, but stations like MSNBC and FOX are particularly good at it.

by **Rasq'uire'laskar** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:25 pm

ReconToaster wrote:
Ringleader wrote:All news networks distort the truth, not Just Fox, as with almost everything it's a business, and you can really only cater to a certain group (not to say they don't know how to maximize their viewing profile), but really, all networks spin the truth.

novamov.com novamov.com/video/49a5a75c73f7c

LOL! Did you just link to Zeitgeist? Prepare to face some feedback.

All News Networks DO distort the truth, but stations like MSNBC and FOX are particularly good at it.

Wrong. MSNBC and FOX are actually the worst at it. They are more visible at it, as compared to CNN.

Somehow, this kinda gets back to what I said last year. We need a national news organization that presents everything like the "Federal News Network".

And Ringleader... fell for the Zeitgeist crap?
That hurts. That physically hurts.

by Ringleader on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:41 pm

More visible news distortion equates to more existent news distortion?
Seeing as they are competing with each other, then I doubt one news party would somehow be any less distorting then the others.