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Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:45 pm

Because the CB is not a good way to debate, I decided to make a thread. Please, only debate here if you are not dumb and headstrong with your beliefs and are willing to listen and take other points into consideration.

I will ignore anyone that is going to be dumn like that.

I already have gotten down to a conclusion, but I want to hear what everyone else has to say.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by BBJynne on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:46 pm

lol

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:46 pm

BB.... gtfo

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:48 pm

Here are links to theories
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Reclaimer
http://www.talk.xboxsolution.com/halo-series/6564-thoughts-about-future-halos-story.html

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by tiny tim on Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:51 pm

Guilty spark clearly says so by calling the humans reclaimers. Thus relating them to the forerunners.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:11 am

It is deeper than that, and yes, that is a refrence that all forerunner AI excluding those on Onyx (under specific circumstances) will think humans as Forerunners.
Not only, but even Mendicant Bias attempted to seek out humans, dubbing them as his "makers". We all clearly know that the Forerunners created him, meaning humans could possibly be forerunner.

Assuming that there was no tampering with the AI, and assuming that he did not know of the existence of the humans before the firing of the halos, means that he did not look at humans as humans, but as forerunners when he was re-activated.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by ReconToaster on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:17 am

"You can't possibly imagine how exciting this is! A record of all our lost time... Human history is it?"

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:43 am

tiny tim wrote:Guilty spark clearly says so by calling the humans reclaimers. Thus relating them to the forerunners.


GS is also shown to be completely unstable.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by tiny tim on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:46 am

He said that before he went all crazy though.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:50 am

He said lots of crazy things before he went 'crazy'.


anyhow, reclaimer doesn't mean forerunner.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Nocbl2 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:01 am

If you look in the terminals, The Librarian refers to Adam and Eve in such a way that she infers humans are one of the many spcies saved on the Shield World (temporary) of Earth.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Ascendant Justice on Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:12 am

ReconToaster wrote:"You can't possibly imagine how exciting this is! A record of all our lost time... Human history is it?"


^ Key word there. Now for my two cents:

Even though GS was unstable, and I'm sure most of the monitors are as PT was still convinced to carry out with activating the installation even though he was captured by the Gravemind meaning that he probably wasn't fully aware of what was going on, where he was etc. But the terminals said (or hinted, cant remember) that the humans were one of many species saved, and the humans being the "reclaimers" was just a way of saying that they were the ones who were destined, or built up to, destroy the flood.

GS saying that the MC was forerunner could also mean that humans were supposed to sort of inherit the forerunner's roles/artifacts/legacy as their "children" and as the most suitable race for the task.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:04 am

Not only, but many other AI recognized humans as forerunners and reclaimers. Examples would be 2401 Pentinent Tangent, 343 Guilty Spark, Mendicant Bias, all the Luminaries...

All of them identify humans as forerunners, and Guilty Spark I believe, said that line before he became rampant.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by dragoon9105 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:25 am

He was rampant far before the events on Installation 04 MkII. i think he went insane quite a while back.

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Re: Humans = Forerunners

Post by Gauz on Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:59 am

That is possible, but he would have to be in the depression stage, as he was clearly not angry. He also didn't act emo, so I think it is safe to assume he was not in rampancy then. Possibly after the destruction if Instillation 04.

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