Re: The Colony

by tiny tim on Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:19 am

John C was almost hit in the head by something when the marauders broke in.
And who is it that voted For Amy West?

by ReconToaster on Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:17 am

KrAzY wrote:
its a social experiment... as far as they know they signed up for anything short of death to happen to them legally...

Ok but... don't they at least know that the people involved ALSO signed up for this experiment? I guess people who know they are part of an experiment can get pretty crazy anyways... like that one university that did the whole prison experiment where the guys that were in charge of things eventually started to sexually abuse the captive "prisoners."

by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:14 am

ReconToaster wrote:
KrAzY wrote:
its a social experiment... as far as they know they signed up for anything short of death to happen to them legally...

Ok but... don't they at least know that the people involved ALSO signed up for this experiment? I guess people who know they are part of an experiment can get pretty crazy anyways... like that one university that did the whole prison experiment where the guys that were in charge of things eventually started to sexually abuse the captive "prisoners."

The Stanford Prison Experiment!

=D

Psychology Professor Zimbardo and his team set out to test the idea that the inherent personality traits of prisoners and guards were summarily key to understanding abusive prison situations. Participants were recruited and told they would participate in a two-week "prison simulation." Of the 70 respondents, Zimbardo and his team selected the 24 males whom they deemed to be the most psychologically stable and healthy. These participants were predominantly white and middle-class.

The "prison" itself was in the basement of Stanford's Jordan Hall, which had been converted into a mock jail. An undergraduate research assistant was the "warden" and Zimbardo the "superintendent". Zimbardo set up a number of specific conditions on the participants which he hoped would promote disorientation, depersonalisation and deindividualisation.

In The Stanford Prison Study video, quoted in Haslam & Reicher, 2003, Zimbardo is seen telling the guards, "You can create in the prisoners feelings of boredom, a sense of fear to some degree, you can create a notion of arbitrariness that their life is totally controlled by us, by the system, you, me, and they'll have no privacy… We're going to take away their individuality in various ways. In general what all this leads to is a sense of powerlessness. That is, in this situation we'll have all the power and they'll have none."

After a relatively uneventful first day, a riot broke out on the second day. The guards volunteered to work extra hours and worked together to break the prisoner revolt, attacking the prisoners with fire extinguishers without supervision from the research staff.

A false rumor spread that one of the prisoners, who asked to leave the experiment, would lead companions to free the rest of the prisoners. The guards dismantled the prison and moved the inmates to another secure location. When no breakout attempt occurred, the guards were angry about having to rebuild the prison, so they took it out on the prisoners.

Several guards became increasingly cruel as the experiment continued. Experimenters said that approximately one-third of the guards exhibited genuine sadistic tendencies. Most of the guards were upset when the experiment concluded early.

Zimbardo concluded the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student he was then dating (and later married), objected to the appalling conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that of more than fifty outside persons who had seen the prison, Maslach was the only one who questioned its morality. After only six days of a planned two weeks' duration, the Stanford Prison experiment was shut down.

All from Wikipedia. Most fascinating, a good read after looking up the "Stanley Milgram Shock Experiments".

by Cheese on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:56 am

ReconToaster wrote:
KrAzY wrote:
its a social experiment... as far as they know they signed up for anything short of death to happen to them legally...

Ok but... don't they at least know that the people involved ALSO signed up for this experiment? I guess people who know they are part of an experiment can get pretty crazy anyways... like that one university that did the whole prison experiment where the guys that were in charge of things eventually started to sexually abuse the captive "prisoners."

What!? No they didn't!

From what I remember of it it was mostly psychological (and fire extinguishers Razz

).

by ReconToaster on Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:14 pm

eh. One of the guys behind the experiment mentioned it on some interview on the Colbert Report. He said something about them showing early signs of sexual abuse or something. I guess they didn't give it time to develop.

by Cheese on Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:55 pm

ReconToaster wrote:eh. One of the guys behind the experiment mentioned it on some interview on the Colbert Report. He said something about them showing early signs of sexual abuse or something. I guess they didn't give it time to develop.

Oh yeah I could definitely see that happening.

by Rasq'uire'laskar on Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:33 pm

Actually, as punishment, one of the prisoners WAS forced to take part in 'simulated' homosexual sex.

by Cheese on Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:37 pm

I really don't remember reading about that. Then again maybe Zimbardo didn't want to write about it. It was his report (as well as a few others in less detail) I read.

Dude I'd be more worried about the colonists hurting the marauders :/

by tiny tim on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:08 pm

Ya. In the commercial for the next one, the self defense instructor wicked one in the side of the head.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:59 am

It was actually Vlad who almost got hit in the head by that big chuck of wood. Razz

by tiny tim on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:43 am

Well the point is it is not completely safe.

by Cheese on Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:45 pm

New Colony.

I got bored just over half way through in the last one, but I figured I might as well give it another bash.

by PiEdude on Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:48 pm

I never got bored, but I stopped watching for some reason.

Maybe they took it off OnDemand or something, I don't remember.

by Cheese on Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:53 pm

It's so American Razz

It's difficult to say why but this would not fly in the UK.

EDIT: Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude... They killed a non-venomous snake. That's horrible.

Heh, they used the 'set on fire' sound file from Timesplitters 2. Some sneaky post-prod going on there.

Looks a good series though. I learned not to give people stuff except water after a rainfall, to hide the supplies and to make a decoy building/area my living/sleeping bit. Of course they did none of this and probably wont, but it seems sensible.

by Nocbl2 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:23 am

I saw this and thought it was pretty cool. But what's the 'fallout' situation they're in? Nuclear war? First Contact breakdown? Rebellion? Biological disaster?

???

Which of the ten survivors do you feel is the most valuable member to the Colony?