Homosexuality

laxspartan007 wrote:

kslidz wrote:um i dont like your choices

i do not agree with homosexuality and think that it is a sin but it is no more a sin than being a total jerk so.. put that choice up there

i also dont think they should be able to get married since marriage is a religious thing and homosexuality is not religious at all

religion is for the people that still have hope, and think there is an after life, awnser to me this...Why hasnt one of my prayers came true?

and why is the bible changed every few years...with a few rules, sins and other forms of tampering...

back in old times when there waz only one bible, it was revolved around giving money to the king and other religious leaders...

now why would god want money when he is already in the "after life/heaven", or why would he want the king or other religious leaders to have money?

the bible was made so society would be less savage and the crime rate would decrese...now over protective mothers can sleap at night knowing there child is trembling about "sins" and not thinking how to have real fun in life...

Please do not turn this into a religion debate thread...

Ascendant Justice wrote:

laxspartan007 wrote:*lax's post*

Please do not turn this into a religion debate thread...

it's called homosexuality. what did you expect to happen?

laxspartan007 wrote:

kslidz wrote:um i dont like your choices

i do not agree with homosexuality and think that it is a sin but it is no more a sin than being a total jerk so.. put that choice up there

i also dont think they should be able to get married since marriage is a religious thing and homosexuality is not religious at all

religion is for the people that still have hope, and think there is an after life, awnser to me this...Why hasnt one of my prayers came true?

and why is the bible changed every few years...with a few rules, sins and other forms of tampering...

back in old times when there waz only one bible, it was revolved around giving money to the king and other religious leaders...

now why would god want money when he is already in the "after life/heaven", or why would he want the king or other religious leaders to have money?

the bible was made so society would be less savage and the crime rate would decrese...now over protective mothers can sleap at night knowing there child is trembling about "sins" and not thinking how to have real fun in life...

o my gosh your perfectly put together argument that has nothing to do with what i said at all just convinced me that there is no afterlife or meaning to life

CivBase wrote:
Frankly, I doubt anyone in the world is actually gay. The primary reason people turn gay seems to be more for social acceptance, rebellion, and/or attention. Think about it, how many gay kids did your parents go to school with? Your grandparents? If someone was really gay, there'd be as many then as there are now. Problem is, there's not.

your logic is flawed there civ... and thats a pretty fucking ignorant thing to say there...


back in grandparents and even parents time, the church was still a big thing... at least a lot bigger than it is now... schools strictly enforced anti gay stuff... it was socially unacceptable to be gay, you would be shunned, have few friends, ext... in the 80's that changed for some reason... and now its socially acceptable to be homosexual. its not that there is more of them, its that they are allowed to show themselves now without fear of descrimination (because whoever discriminates is afraid of the million dollar lawsuit the gay person would bring on them)

KrAzY wrote:
especially ones with the voice that sounds like they leaned to talk by listening to little girls.... which I guess they did...

False.

As homosexuality has been proven to be caused by hormone imbalances in the womb, the high pitched voice is highly understandable considering that the levels of testosterone in the body during puberty determines the deepness of ones voice (within genetic limitations of course) and considering that some gay guys have pretty much nill testosterone a high pitched voice is practical.

CivBase wrote:
Gay high schoolers tend to piss me off, though... hardly know what love even is, and they suddenly think that they have a right to say that they're gay. Bunch of morons.

um what?

so because they may or may not have experienced real love they are incapable of recognizing that the fact they're attracted to someone of the same gender, they're morons?


Attraction is not a choice.

not the high pitchedness

i'm talking about the accent... teenage girls talk stressing syllables that aren't stressed in normal English by ANYONE ELSE, including most adult women, and yet this is the accent that a lot of gay men pick up.

I believe that gay people should indeed have all the rights that straight people have, no more, no less. Just like Black people, their possible deferences shouldn't be relevant or matter whatsoever unless it is ontopic.

But I hate the Gays that are over the top gay and try act as if they are superior or something.

Although I most of all hate the hardcore serious anti-Gays, this pretty much excuses gay parades. I prefer it that Gays are over the top proud out there, than being oppressed by stupid fucks. hopefully one day Anti-gays will go away and gays wont have to go around showing off that they are gay, and we can all settle down. But there will always be anti-Gays.

In summary, I don't think being gay is a big deal, and it should be like having brown hair, nothing to care about.

Yeah, expanding on what I said in the Furry thread, as long as they do not impose their beliefs in a bigoted way, or exploit their beliefs for personal gain, I am indifferent.

It just really annoys me when homosexuals act so pretentiously. It's as if being homosexual makes you important, or more important than heterosexuals. That's not to say they cannot have support groups, but when they are just so damn assertive with it, it's annoying.

The other thing that annoys me is the homosexual people that feel as though they have to behave, dress and speak in a stereotypical way, so as to assure their homosexuality and to assert it at any given opportunity, which relates back to my thoughts on their pretentiousness. If you're gay, you're gay. I don't need to know, and you don't need to make it overly obvious for the sake of personal benefit.

/end incoherent rant

i honestly don't know any gay guys that are this 'over-the-top' gay you speak of.

KristallNacht wrote:i honestly don't know any gay guys that are this 'over-the-top' gay you speak of.

Consider yourself lucky. I know quite a few. They dress overly flamboyant, they are pretentious as all hell, and they talk in a certain way. Carson Cressley, prime example.

Sexual preference doesn't have any impact on your style, your voice, or your behaviour. It is homosexuals that attach these stigmas to homosexuality, thus doing themselves a disservice by damaging the reputation and image of homosexuality, and strongly distancing themselves from the status quo which then attracts more criticism and alienation from the rest of society.
That's not to say that there is anything wrong with homosexuality though.

Also, religion is entirely subjective, so none of you are really in any position whatsoever to use it as a basis for an argument.

AND also, it's rather coincedental that this thread was created, because just today we had a presentation during assembly from two openly homosexual students at our school about a new student group dedicated to supporting homosexuals and bisexuals. Pretty courageous of them, but boy oh boy, talk about social suicide at a school like mine, where the students have zero sensitivity, emotional awareness, or consideration for anything other than their own stupid bigoted beliefs.

Rotaretilbo wrote:I'm afraid that we need a none of the above. I don't not like gay people, I simply disagree with their living style. And while I do believe that gays burn in Hell, I take no pleasure in this thought, nor do I desire for them to do so.

Really? Burn in Hell? Do you also think that you'll find yourself in Hell for 'spilling your seed?'

Didn't Jesus die for your sins? You're enforcing foolish restrictions of the old testament. Go join the Westborough Baptist Church.

Rotaretilbo wrote:
All in all, this poll is generally too black and white. It only allows for support of homosexuality, which I do not, indifference to homosexuality, which I am not, dislike for homosexuals, which I do not, or hatred of homosexuals, which I do not.

You see the shift? It went from how you feel about homosexuality to how you feel about homosexuals.

I still don't see what the problem is. It sounds like you've already made your decision, but you don't feel comfortable posting it. You just told us that you think that homosexuality is, in the eyes of God, wrong, but that you personally have nothing against people who are gay.

So there you have it. You are indifferent to homosexuals. Was that so hard?

ReconToaster wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:I'm afraid that we need a none of the above. I don't not like gay people, I simply disagree with their living style. And while I do believe that gays burn in Hell, I take no pleasure in this thought, nor do I desire for them to do so.

Really? Burn in Hell? Do you also think that you'll find yourself in Hell for 'spilling your seed?'

Didn't Jesus die for your sins? You're enforcing foolish restrictions of the old testament. Go join the Westborough Baptist Church.

Rotaretilbo wrote:
All in all, this poll is generally too black and white. It only allows for support of homosexuality, which I do not, indifference to homosexuality, which I am not, dislike for homosexuals, which I do not, or hatred of homosexuals, which I do not.

You see the shift? It went from how you feel about homosexuality to how you feel about homosexuals.

I still don't see what the problem is. It sounds like you've already made your decision, but you don't feel comfortable posting it. You just told us that you think that homosexuality is, in the eyes of God, wrong, but that you personally have nothing against people who are gay.

So there you have it. You are indifferent to homosexuals. Was that so hard?

no he feels as i do
hate the sin not the sinner

and no homosexuality is not like having a pigmentation its like being an angry person
you may be more susceptible to being gay than another person but you still have a choice
do the research