KN's Guide to Fixing the Country

by KristallNacht on Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:48 am

1. Legalize Marijuana
2. Reduce minimum wage until it doesn't exist
3. Voucher System for Schools
4. Disband the unions
5. Nuclear Power

The voucher system semi privatizes the public school system. instead of the states and federal government paying and directly supporting schools the way they do, they would instead take the cost per student and issue vouchers (1 per student) to families each year. These vouchers would have the value of the current cost per student. The voucher would then be used to pay tuition each year at a private school. (thats the basics)

by PiEdude on Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:52 am

1. Legalizing Mary Jane will do no good. More people will be lazy and useless and not want to do shit but smoke more pot, and since they won't want to get jobs they'll just rob liquor stores.

2. If there's noone doing minimum wage jobs, then how does society function?

3. I still don't get the Voucher System.

by Gold Spartan on Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:58 am

You left out pushing all mentally retarded people into super soldier programs and research on how to fix the mentally retarded people.

by KristallNacht on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:12 am

PiEman wrote:1. Legalizing Mary Jane will do no good. More people will be lazy and useless and not want to do shit but smoke more pot, and since they won't want to get jobs they'll just rob liquor stores.

legalizing it does lots of good. it frees up law enforcement funds to be used on actually fighting the hard drugs. it lessens the strain on the prison system, saving us billions. and you are aware LOTS of successful people smoke pot right? and many are not lazy or useless.

and your last point is just ridiculous. Nobody wants to get a job, doesn't mean liquor stores are getting robbed all the time now

PiEman wrote:2. If there's noone doing minimum wage jobs, then how does society function?

....what? that has absolutely nothing to do with reducing minimum wage...

PiEman wrote:3. I still don't get the Voucher System.

its a publically funded privatized education system.

by Ascendant Justice on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:14 am

KristallNacht wrote:1. Legalize Marijuana
2. Reduce minimum wage until it doesn't exist
3. Voucher System for Schools

The voucher system semi privatizes the public school system. instead of the states and federal government paying and directly supporting schools the way they do, they would instead take the cost per student and issue vouchers (1 per student) to families each year. These vouchers would have the value of the current cost per student. The voucher would then be used to pay tuition each year at a private school. (thats the basics)

.........Are you for serious? Or is this depicting sarcasm along the lines of your "How to win an Internet Debate" thread?

by KristallNacht on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:32 am

please explain your point.

by Dud Doodoo on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:34 am

Gold wrote:You left out pushing all mentally retarded people into super soldier programs and research on how to fix the mentally retarded people.

Fixing mental retardation is a simple thing. The technology exists, it simply hasn't been used on humans. Taking into account that it involves killing fertilized embryos, I don't think it will for a while either.

There is a method that neurologists have been using on rats. It involves separating neurons from the rest of the organism and treating the blob to dissolve the connections between the cells. Now you have a fluid of neurons that will reform around any input and output you give them. This has effectively been done with the rat brain car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPiF4-iu6g

Now to cure mental retardation, you must start off with a cloned embryo. This can be either be the patients or a highly functional doner, depending on the cause of retardation. If the cause is a genetic disorder, you will need to use the DNA of someone else. If it was caused by brain damage or the lack of cells, the DNA should come from the patient. If it comes from a doner there is a considerable chance of the body rejecting the cells, and I am not sure whether or not foreign cells would be able to form connections and function properly with the patient's. If the DNA comes from a patient, the whole process would go must smoother.

The culture of neurons would be grown then treated to dissolve the connections. Once they are ready, they must be injected into the brain of the patient within a specific time frame so that they do not form new connections before entering the brain. Once this is done the patient must go through a long period of re-education and development as the new cells develop from scratch. The plasticity of the brain will allow the new cells to form around the patients existing cells and his senses. The personality of the patient will be preserved, as the old cells will communicate and direct the new. That said, there is still the possibility of distortion.

I came up with this with cerebral palsy in mind, not down syndrome. While I am almost certain that using cloned cells from the patient would work, I am not so sure about an injection of a doner's cells. This procedure could be used to cure both blindness and deafness, as well as other types of brain damage.

by PiEdude on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:36 am

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:1. Legalizing Mary Jane will do no good. More people will be lazy and useless and not want to do shit but smoke more pot, and since they won't want to get jobs they'll just rob liquor stores.

legalizing it does lots of good. it frees up law enforcement funds to be used on actually fighting the hard drugs. it lessens the strain on the prison system, saving us billions. and you are aware LOTS of successful people smoke pot right? and many are not lazy or useless.

Well, you know what drunk driving is like right?

Now imagine the numbers for that, but increased by stoned driving.

KristallNacht wrote:
and your last point is just ridiculous. Nobody wants to get a job, doesn't mean liquor stores are getting robbed all the time now

Have you ever been near the South Side of Chicago?

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:2. If there's noone doing minimum wage jobs, then how does society function?

....what? that has absolutely nothing to do with reducing minimum wage...

If corporations like McDonalds or Wal-Mart can pay their workers less than $2 per hour, than they sure as hell will.

If you mean something else, explain it to me please, and I'm sorry for misunderstanding.

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:3. I still don't get the Voucher System.

its a publically funded privatized education system.

Thank you for clarifying that.

by Ascendant Justice on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:40 am

KristallNacht wrote:please explain your point.

Are you serious about your changes? Like do you seriously think that those would make the world better? (not being a douche, just asking).

by Gold Spartan on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:41 am

He's talking about America AJ.

by KristallNacht on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:49 am

PiEman wrote:
Well, you know what drunk driving is like right?

Now imagine the numbers for that, but increased by stoned driving.

first off, driving under the influence would still be illegal. second, being high doesn't affect your motor skills as much as being drunk. third, being high reduces your WANT to drive, making you both paranoid about the consequences as well as lethargic. how many accidents happen now because of stoned driving? chances are thats not gonna change much.

Have you ever been near the South Side of Chicago?

and this has something to do with being high?

PiEman wrote:
If corporations like McDonalds or Wal-Mart can pay their workers less than $2 per hour, than they sure as hell will.

and then no one would work there.

supply and demand works on jobs as well.

the more a company pays, the less positions it can have, but the more people want the job.

if the wage was allowed to freely balance itself, inflation wouldn't be an issue, and there would be a vastly larger job market.

by KristallNacht on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:49 am

Ascendant Justice wrote:
Are you serious about your changes? Like do you seriously think that those would make the world better? (not being a douche, just asking).

and I'm asking you to explain why those wouldn't fix anything

by Ascendant Justice on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:53 am

KristallNacht wrote:
Ascendant Justice wrote:
Are you serious about your changes? Like do you seriously think that those would make the world better? (not being a douche, just asking).

and I'm asking you to explain why those wouldn't fix anything

So I take it you're being serious. In that case, I have different views on how the world could be made better. Those will be explained another time however.

by PiEdude on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:54 am

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:
Well, you know what drunk driving is like right?

Now imagine the numbers for that, but increased by stoned driving.

first off, driving under the influence would still be illegal. second, being high doesn't affect your motor skills as much as being drunk. third, being high reduces your WANT to drive, making you both paranoid about the consequences as well as lethargic. how many accidents happen now because of stoned driving? chances are thats not gonna change much.

It'll be more common place because pot wouldn't be illegal.

KristallNacht wrote:

Have you ever been near the South Side of Chicago?

and this has something to do with being high?

No, it has something to do with junkies robbing liquor stores.[/quote]

KristallNacht wrote:
PiEman wrote:
If corporations like McDonalds or Wal-Mart can pay their workers less than $2 per hour, than they sure as hell will.

and then no one would work there.

supply and demand works on jobs as well.

the more a company pays, the less positions it can have, but the more people want the job.

if the wage was allowed to freely balance itself, inflation wouldn't be an issue, and there would be a vastly larger job market.

The wage level would still be lower.

Obviously people who are desperate for jobs will have no choice.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:55 am

KristallNacht wrote:1. Legalize Marijuana

The only change I'd note here would be to have a tax on Marijuana. Personally, I'm against it, because Marijuana, side effects aside, has like twice as much tar as regular cigarettes, but if we do legalize it, we might as well charge loads for it, help pay off the deficit.

KristallNacht wrote:2. Reduce minimum wage until it doesn't exist

Or just get rid of it altogether in the first place. The problem with minimum wage that people don't seem to realize is that when a company is forced to pay its workers more, it either cuts benefits or lays off employees to compensate. If jobs don't offer fair wages, they won't attract employees, so a minimum really isn't particularly necessary.

KristallNacht wrote:3. Voucher System for Schools

I'm too lazy to read how this will work, but it could probably work. My main concern is the lack of addressing the issue of immigration, especially of the illegal sort.

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