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Re: Rapture

Post by Lord Pheonix on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:02 pm

If you believe that a being is so powerful that it can create EVERYTHING EVER IN THE EXISTENCE OF EVER through simple will in 6 days but can't make water appear then your sense of scale is fucked.

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Re: Rapture

Post by Ringleader on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:23 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:The problem with a city on the surface is that if it's too large, bad weather would really seriously effect it. It would either have to be solidly connected with the sea floor and deal with flooding or be free floating and deal with bad shit.

Just don't have it in a place with hurricanes, the Indian Ocean is supposed to be calm, and it goes from the equator to Antarctica.

Obviously, it wouldn't be one large solid structure, but rather dozens of smaller interlocking sections connected to each other. Imagine roping 6 container ships end in a hexagonal ring to end to make one section, that way it's not fixed in shape, but in total the whole configuration is probably more stable in bad weather than individual ships.

I find it hard to accept the hazards of a floating city exceed the hazards of an underwater city.
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Re: Rapture

Post by Gauz on Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:05 pm

Under the sea
Under the sea
Darling it's better
Down where it's wetter
Take it from me



Opinion is still sack FYI
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Re: Rapture

Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:24 am

I seem to recall some unrest in the Indian ocean a few years back...



Mind you, an underwater city doesn't seem any more viable.

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Re: Rapture

Post by Ringleader on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:52 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:I seem to recall some unrest in the Indian ocean a few years back...



Mind you, an underwater city doesn't seem any more viable.
Tsunami's aren't really that big or bad in the open ocean, only when they get close to shore is when they propagate:

Tsunami can be generated when the sea floor abruptly deforms and vertically displaces the overlying water. Tectonic earthquakes are a particular kind of earthquake that are associated with the Earth's crustal deformation; when these earthquakes occur beneath the sea, the water above the deformed area is displaced from its equilibrium position.[19] More specifically, a tsunami can be generated when thrust faults associated with convergent or destructive plate boundaries move abruptly, resulting in water displacement, owing to the vertical component of movement involved. Movement on normal faults will also cause displacement of the seabed, but the size of the largest of such events is normally too small to give rise to a significant tsunami.

Tsunamis have a small amplitude (wave height) offshore, and a very long wavelength (often hundreds of kilometers long, whereas normal ocean waves have a wavelength of only 30 or 40 metres),[20] which is why they generally pass unnoticed at sea, forming only a slight swell usually about 300 millimetres (12 in) above the normal sea surface. They grow in height when they reach shallower water, in a wave shoaling process described below. A tsunami can occur in any tidal state and even at low tide can still inundate coastal areas.

That picture, kinda looks a little shopped too. Was it really that tall?

An underwater city would probably be equally unaffected by a tsunami, if it's sufficiently far enough away from the shoreline. The thing is, if you anchor it to the sea floor, then it would be affected by earthquakes like above ground cities, unless maybe you put suspension in whatever anchoring mechanism used. It seems like over kill compared to what is essentially a large boat, or several large boats tied together. Probably the safest place to be during a tsunami is floating on the open ocean far away from land.
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Re: Rapture

Post by dragoon9105 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:12 pm

I believe he is referring to the earthquakes that could very well turn an underwater city into a deathtrap very fast that cause the Tsunamis in the first place.
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Re: Rapture

Post by Ringleader on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:39 pm

Right,

Floating cities > underwater cities during underwater earthquakes, especially if their anchored to the sea floor.
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Re: Rapture

Post by Lord Pheonix on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:39 am

In the long term giant waves are much more frequent than underwater earthquakes.

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Re: Rapture

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:46 am

GIANT waves only come as a result of underwater earthquakes....

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/

there's every earthquake from just the last 7 days....

Underwater cities would be pretty safe if they're in the middle of a plate. And maybe have them attached to the sea floor through shock absorbing mounts.
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