Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Gauz on Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:06 am

GO GO FORERUNNER RANGERS!


EDIT: On a serious note, after watching it, it wasn't too bad. The art stlye, I happened to like, I just wish they elaborated with some details. The rest was fine, and how anime should look by the way.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by PiEdude on Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:17 pm

Actually, Rock brings up a good point, (not about the Power Rangers).

Guilty Spark does say (during the Library) that the Chief's armor is inferior, and suggests a different kind.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Ringleader on Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:10 pm

Ringleader wrote:What was the big idea NOT making humans Forerunners? Did no one else see the potential story arc completion here?

Did you not see how similar they were?
IDK about you, but the leading theory on HBO is that Forerunners are humans put into accelerated development by Precursers. Humans were still left behind. Hell, Halo 3 specifically stated that the Forerunners FOUND us.


I don't go on HBO, but I did notice the Forerunners looking an awful lot like humans in lame armor. The thing is the way 343 portrayed them was really really bad, they really shouldn't have showed them at all tbh... I mean what is the point?! why do you need to know what a Forerunner looked like? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it detracts a lot from it in terms of the scarce/extinct quality of the the Forerunner.

Ringleader wrote:I mean, was it not hinted enough in all the games and books?! (until recently of course, whenever anyone can say some retarded crap and it becomes galvanized into the story). But really now, the story is rapidly losing its flare with these morons at 343 and ES, just, DESTROYING any hint of mystery and interest in the the Halo Universe.

Eh... It hasn't been brought up since CH, which was okay...


I don't think it's okay, I mean, they are just bulldozing over what clearly made Halo cool. I would hardly consider anything new, that did not come out of Bungie themselves to be canon, because even if they think they are abiding by what Bungie gave them in terms of the plot structure, their interpretation of it, and where they went with it is clearly in the wrong direction (Japanese buildings on alien planets...) The potential in each one of these episodes, is so great, and what happens, is such a let down, my poor little heart cannot take much more of it.



Ringleader wrote:If the Halo's were right above all the inhabited planets, wouldn't the aliens living on the planet immediately have access to Forerunner technology, and to a Halo that they could potentially use? None of the new stuff makes any sense, it's just stupidity.

I believe the Covenant already found the remains of one (Eaten beyond recognition by the Hunters) and I also believe that the Forerunner could have moved the Halos afterward. It would make sense that the Halos would fire near the Species' planets. If they'd survived to the end of the Forerunner-Flood war, then obviously the Forerunners had made those areas into strongholds.


That was just Forerunner debris, it didn't say it was a Halo did it? When on the Ark, there seemed to be real time condition in terms of the state of each Halo ring, so if that Halo was really destroyed, I am pretty certain it would show up as debris in the Ark's control room/halo firing room. If it made sense for them to keep the Halos above inhabited planets (which I don't think we can justify Forerunner actions, giving further intrigue to the story, and making it better and more appealing) , then they probably would have kept them there. Also, there are 7 of them so they can encompass the entire area of the galaxy, so if they just had 3 of them over planets in just one arm of the Milky Way, then they wouldn't work properly as they would all fire in close proximity and not cover the remaining area of the MW. Also, the probably reason why Halos orbit around gas giants is because they are extremely large and massive, Halo's diameter is almost that of earth's, so it is not entirely practical to have such a massive complex stationed over a relatively small body.

Yeah, I feel obliged to draw up better Forerunner armor...

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by KrAzY on Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:20 pm

the reason they orbit gas giants is for fuel



but yes... good point was brought up about the size of the galaxy... installation 04 was EXTREMELY far away from earth... Delta halo was a lot closer to earth (just judging from the time it took them to reach it)

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Nocbl2 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:33 am

I still see the Forerunners as Kaminoan-looking creatures, but of course more ethical. And with firearms...

The episode itself wasn't too bad, but, it had its flaws, as ever.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by CivBase on Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:46 am

Yah, showing the forerunners was a HUGE mistake...

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:17 am

Ringleader wrote:
I don't go on HBO, but I did notice the Forerunners looking an awful lot like humans in lame armor. The thing is the way 343 portrayed them was really really bad, they really shouldn't have showed them at all tbh... I mean what is the point?! why do you need to know what a Forerunner looked like? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it detracts a lot from it in terms of the scarce/extinct quality of the the Forerunner.

You won't get any argument from me there.

Ringleader wrote:I don't think it's okay, I mean, they are just bulldozing over what clearly made Halo cool. I would hardly consider anything new, that did not come out of Bungie themselves to be canon, because even if they think they are abiding by what Bungie gave them in terms of the plot structure, their interpretation of it, and where they went with it is clearly in the wrong direction (Japanese buildings on alien planets...) The potential in each one of these episodes, is so great, and what happens, is such a let down, my poor little heart cannot take much more of it.

Look at it this way...
Just how many games and novels (Hell, the movie!) are going to pick up on the crap in the animes? Reach already retconned the Spartan's appearances beneath their armor, and I doubt other things (Female 'leets!) are going to stick around.

Ringleader wrote:That was just Forerunner debris, it didn't say it was a Halo did it? When on the Ark, there seemed to be real time condition in terms of the state of each Halo ring, so if that Halo was really destroyed, I am pretty certain it would show up as debris in the Ark's control room/halo firing room.

Good point.

Ringleader wrote:(which I don't think we can justify Forerunner actions, giving further intrigue to the story, and making it better and more appealing)

You're going a little far there, Ringleader.

Ringleader wrote:then they probably would have kept them there. Also, there are 7 of them so they can encompass the entire area of the galaxy, so if they just had 3 of them over planets in just one arm of the Milky Way, then they wouldn't work properly as they would all fire in close proximity and not cover the remaining area of the MW.

Eh, I assumed that the Covenant come from at least two other arms of the MWG.

Ringleader wrote:Yeah, I feel obliged to draw up better Forerunner armor...

Please do. I always assumed that it would look a lot like the Sentinels, and would obscure their outline.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Ringleader on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:20 pm

Heres a drawing of Forerunner Assault Armor I promised.



Hes supposed to have a holographic Statue of Liberty like crown (didn't scan over well), with some other holograms floating above his head. I made the legs have mechanical segments to hide the human shape, and enhance mobility.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Gauz on Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:48 pm

Reminds me of sauron

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by RX on Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:31 pm

Very nice, didn't know you drew THAT well

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Ringleader on Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:23 pm

Thanks!

I tried to combine some things like those eagle warriors off of the first Stargate movie while still making it look Forerunner.

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Re: Halo Legends 'Origins' Part one Review.

Post by Vigil on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:29 pm

Brief addtion to the review as I saw Part II

It pissed boiling oil in the small victories they made up here, by completely missing the point of the alliance in Halo 2 and making a lot of shit up that didn't happen in Halo 3

Oh and Cortana goes Rampant. Not really as exciting or catastrophic as you'd think.

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