Re: Halo: Reach

by Rasq'uire'laskar on Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:54 pm

Vigil wrote:I've heard this hollow 'Oh company X has totally sold out and their milking Franchise X now, they don't care about the fans anymore and their catering to the bayspolions crowd blah blah blah' BS argument and it pisses me off, as you presented NOTHING to support that and it sounds like your reading of a teleprompter.

That argument has been used against virtually every developer I can think of, and most time it comes of as stupid and hollow as you just did.

Thank you. I've been hearing that from my friends, hearing it over at the StarCraft Legacy forum, hearing it here, and hearing it from Ringleader. I'm frickin' tired of it, because it all sounds so juvenile. "Wah Wah Wah, Blizzard isn't giving us our Chat Channels! Wah, Blizzard would rather have useless units in multiplayer than awesome units! Wah, they sold their souls to Kotick and want our money!"

No. No. And no.
C'mon, people. I write HALO FANFICTION, including a fanfic longer than The Fall of Reach, and I think you're taking this too seriously. No, not seriously, you're going through the whole thing and picking it apart, LOOKING to hate stuff. Sure, Halo Wars deserved every inch of it, but there's no way you can do that to a book/movie/game and expect to like it. I've learned to forgive stuff like that, because I might like the story as a whole. I forgave Bungie for letting the ODSTs haul around HMGs, because I understood something called the "Separation of gameplay and story." I forgave Bungie for hauling in Keyes's brat and making her a main character, because it didn't detract too much from the story. I forgave Blizzard for bouncing the Idiot Ball off Stukov and DuGualle (And for WarCrap III) I forgave Tolkein for going off about a BLOODY ROCK for a whole page, because the rest of the story is still awesome.

TLDR: It's still good. Take a deep breath. Look for stuff you like too.

Vigil wrote:If you're going to hate, hate intelligently.

True.

As for the booster rockets, I'd hazard a guess that they're to get the Sabre into Low Reach Orbit faster than a Pelican can.

by **Spekwyse** on Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:35 am

Gauz wrote:
I'm trying to navigate an empty city not find the lost city of Bablyonia or some shit like that! I shouldn't have to pull my map out every couple minutes because I made a wrong turn into a courtyard that looks like a carbon copy of the last 3 courtyards I navigated through.

Not true.
Vigil, me, and a friend of ours (Schinler) all played through the campaign together for a bit to help Schinler beat it on legendary. As we traveled from point a to b, we actually looked around the city and found some really cool things which are hidden in dark corners and buildings around the city, which made the 2nd playthrough quite enjoyable. When i was leading the group to the next mission, i didn't even look at the map cause i could tell where i was from the surroundings. So please don't tell me the courtyards looks all the same. Thanks.

by Divine Virus on Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:44 am

Rasq speaks the truth...

The common sence truth.

Thank you Rasq for saying what needed to be said.

by **XNate02** on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:24 am

Agreed. 65 pages of complaining about a skull on a visor in a video game gets very..... whats the word I'm looking for..... oh I got it.

It's quite sad really

by Felix on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:29 am

I would also like to point out (again) that if the worst thing you can complain about is a helmet, THAT'S A GOOD THING

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:52 am

I would note that the helmet is neither my only complaint nor my biggest complaint. I only brought it up because it is one that people tried to explain away, and there is no more explaining it away. When I get home tomorrow, I'll write a nice big post about why I think Reach is going in the wrong direction.

by Divine Virus on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:56 am

And we'll sit there and laugh. We will print it out...

And when the game finally comes out, we'll take out that paper and laugh some more, harder this time as we play Reach.

;) Well, I might do that. Maybe...

by Nocbl2 on Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:10 am

Guys, stop with the hate! Who gives a shit if a spaceship has booster rockets? Who cares if an idiot has a skull on his visor?

Also, who cares about hating on a game they hate if they aren't going to buy it because they hate it so much?

TL;DR: WHO THE FUCK CARES???

by Divine Virus on Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:16 am

I sure don't.

Rot and anybody else is probably gonna go ahead and post their problems with Reach (a game they haven't even played yet) and I'll probably read'em. But I won't care...

I...just...won't...care. I've had enough with this back & forth. I'll probably still post in here, but-oh you know what I mean.

Whatever

by Felix on Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:25 am

Rotaretilbo wrote:I would note that the helmet is neither my only complaint nor my biggest complaint. I only brought it up because it is one that people tried to explain away, and there is no more explaining it away. When I get home tomorrow, I'll write a nice big post about why I think Reach is going in the wrong direction.

So it is a small complaint. Not even worth mentioning. After 60+ pages of arguing over it, maybe we both can realize it is too small to care about.

And fine, you write your blog post. You write till your hearts content. But know this; if you nit-pick every little detail, you will always find problems.

by JB on Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:00 am

I THINK THE SACK PEOPLE FROM LITTLE BIG PLANET NEED CIVIL RIGHTS! IT'S UNJUST! <----- whole argument was about as useful as that post. Just saying.

by RX on Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:11 am

Holy shit! I never noticed how long this damn thread was!

by Vtrooper on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:24 pm

RX wrote:Holy shit! I never noticed how long this damn thread was!

yeah sad aint it, good thing im almost compleatly on PS3 since my Xbox died

by Felix on Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:51 pm

JB wrote:I THINK THE SACK PEOPLE FROM LITTLE BIG PLANET NEED CIVIL RIGHTS! IT'S UNJUST! <----- whole argument was about as useful as that post. Just saying.

Hey, the sack people have rights too!

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:15 pm

If we always accept the mediocre bullshit developers hand us without a word, we'll never get to play good shit, and eventually, the developers will realize they can hand us pisspoor bullshit and we'll still take it. That is the current state of the industry. That is why I and many others were severely unimpressed with 95% of the stuff here at e3.