Re: Vegan: Healthy or Unhealty?

by **Kasrkin Seath** on Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:41 pm

Ziggy wrote:
Kasrkin Seath wrote:Okay, can we come to an agreement on two things?

Vegan WITHOUT the dietary supplements is very unhealthy
Vegan WITH the dietary supplements is healthy

Now, I would say that if you have a diet that is healthy, why would you need to use supplements to survive?

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Well, I dont see why it matters since you have been arguing over the same damn things since the second, maybe even first page without much of a result...

I was just clarifying those two points

by **KrAzY** on Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:22 pm

i'd like to point out the fact that our poll has lost 1% to oblivion

by **Spekwyse** on Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:29 pm

KrAzY wrote:i'd like to point out the fact that our poll has lost 1% to oblivion

I just saw that, so i'm not going to vote to ruin it. ^.^

Anyways.

Dietary Supplements.
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Supplements the Diet.
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Helps out Diet.
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Supplements are not part of Diet.

So yeah, I'm agreeing with Rot here.
The Vegan diet is unhealthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM

by ReconToaster on Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:51 pm

Kasrkin Seath wrote:Okay, can we come to an agreement on two things?

Vegan WITHOUT the dietary supplements is very unhealthy
Vegan WITH the dietary supplements is healthy

Now, I would say that if you have a diet that is healthy, why would you need to use supplements to survive?

Because the idea is that supplements are just as much a part of the diet as the fruits and vegetables.

From the perspective of what I'm arguing, what you just said is like saying "If you have a diet that is healthy, why would you need fruits and vegetables to survive?"

See? We're arguing about whether or not supplements should be considered a form of "food."

by Gauz on Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:18 pm

I noticed that the poll has a percent missing, and it bothers me... a lot..

Anyways, as the FDA regulates, dietary supplement is food, and this arguement IS OVER! VEGAN DIET'S ARE HEALTHY, END OF DISCUSSION, STOP OVER-ANALYZING THIS!

Why take a vegan diet? Apparently they want to waste dead animal's delicious flesh, and live healthy, ironically.

by Cheese on Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:32 pm

I think they care more about the animals than eating properly. But yeah, I'm on the side of supplements being food here on the pure basis that I want a future in which we all have the option to be perfectly healthy on nothing but the food pill.

If they can recreate a part of that, more power to them.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:35 am

Gauz wrote:Anyways, as the FDA regulates, dietary supplement is food, and this arguement IS OVER! VEGAN DIET'S ARE HEALTHY, END OF DISCUSSION, STOP OVER-ANALYZING THIS!

Ironically, the very source from which you gleaned this information also specifically states that dietary supplements are inherently separate from one's diet. They're like a wheelchair for handicapped diets.

by Gauz on Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:51 am

The FDA or wikipedia?

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:22 am

When asked where you got the info, did you link to the FDA or Wikipedia? That should answer the question as to what I referred to when talking about your source.

by Gauz on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:27 am

You could've just said wikipedia... it'd be easier.

And I don't care about the rest of the article, just the part where the FDA regulates it as a food. Everything else doesn't matter, what does matter, is what the Food and Drug Administration lables dietary supplemenet as.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:31 am

Gauz wrote:You could've just said wikipedia... it'd be easier.

What would have been easier would be you understanding a source.

Gauz wrote:And I don't care about the rest of the article, just the part where the FDA regulates it as a food. Everything else doesn't matter, what does matter, is what the Food and Drug Administration lables dietary supplemenet as.

Actually, I would say that whether or not dietary supplements are considered as part of one's diet is more important than whether or not the FDA wants to call dietary supplements an unconventional food or a drug, as this would lead to one wondering as to whether or not "unconventional" foods are counted as part of one's diet.

by Gauz on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:39 am

Why shouldn't they be? They're still foods, so they should still be apart of your diet.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:50 am

The article that marks them as unconventional foods seems to disagree.

by Gauz on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:53 am

So? That's wikipedia, I only used that to find out what the FDA's opinion was on "unconventional foods". Apparently they think it's food, hence the "foods" in the word. I'm going to take their word for it.

by Gold Spartan on Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:04 am

I like how there's two people defending the diet but there's only one vote for it being healthy. Razz

Healthy or Unhealthy