I have a question

Have you recently heard girl say "I need to go PEE, excuse me, but I have to PEE!"

That bugs me.





But you know what? Lil Missy can walk right on up to the kitchen and make me a sandwich, yes siree Bob.

I really do hope for the sake of your future partners/wives/girlfriends that this misogyny is playful, even though it's horribly sexist regardless.

Ziggy wrote:I really do hope for the sake of your future partners/wives/girlfriends that this misogyny is playful, even though it's horribly sexist regardless.

Indeed.

A women should not be bound or judged by the fact that they are a women

BUT

We shouldn't have to deal with all this "equality" bullshit that forces companies to hire women. The difference in wages and jobs is being reduced yearly, and the only reason men have more jobs than women is maternal instinct.

Nothing pisses me off than people commenting on how 70% or whatever of poor people are black. Does the other 30% not matter? Does it matter whether a poor person is black or white? They are down there because our society is not great with rapid class change (a succesful parent can raise succesful kids, but a unsuccesful parent can't), and the fact that blacks were only our equals by the 1960's means that they started out much lower than the rest and therefore wouldn't be able to jump classes in two or three generations.

Ziggy wrote:

Yeah, for once I'm with Pie. That's a pretty fucked statement to make. :/
Personally I think gender should equate to nothing in society. It's stances like yours that are fucking up society for women, especially in the business world.

Anyway, enjoy your wife beating in a decade or so when your wife refuses to iron your clothes or make your sandwich bro.

No, I don't mean anything like that. I think women should have all the same rights as men, and they should be allowed to hold the same job positions (except certain military positions) as men. I guess what I'm getting at with Megan Fox is the way that she lets herself be used as some kind of sex image. It bothers me when people just flaunt themselves all over the place, and her image seems to promote some sort of message of promiscuity.

In other words... she strikes me as being a whore.

Now, as for gender roles, I'm not talking about anything radical. I mean simple things. I think certain guidelines make for a much more compatible home life. The man should be the sole financial provider, and the woman should be the sole care giver to the children. I don't think either gender should be forced to observe those guidelines, but I think they make for a longer lasting relationship, wherein both genders are contributing equally but differently.

Now... I don't think women should be in the military. A man goes to war to defend his country, and to defend the women and children back at home. I think that if women truly want equality, and truly want to be able to hold military positions, we should ask them if they would also like to be included in the draft.

Ziggy wrote:I really do hope for the sake of your future partners/wives/girlfriends that this misogyny is playful, even though it's horribly sexist regardless.

I realize that we've been trained to recognize any talk of differences between genders as "sexist," but c'mon now. This isn't misogyny. There is no hatred toward women here. I think it is a man's responsibility to provide for his wife to the best of his abilities, and to cater to all of her wants and needs.

Realizing that, in the very least, society has shaped the roles of men and women, and that those broader roles are very compatible, has nothing to do with a hatred toward women.

ReconToaster wrote:

Ziggy wrote:

Yeah, for once I'm with Pie. That's a pretty fucked statement to make. :/
Personally I think gender should equate to nothing in society. It's stances like yours that are fucking up society for women, especially in the business world.

Anyway, enjoy your wife beating in a decade or so when your wife refuses to iron your clothes or make your sandwich bro.

No, I don't mean anything like that. I think women should have all the same rights as men, and they should be allowed to hold the same job positions (except certain military positions) as men. I guess what I'm getting at with Megan Fox is the way that she lets herself be used as some kind of sex image. It bothers me when people just flaunt themselves all over the place, and her image seems to promote some sort of message of promiscuity.

In other words... she strikes me as being a whore.

Now, as for gender roles, I'm not talking about anything radical. I mean simple things. I think certain guidelines make for a much more compatible home life. The man should be the sole financial provider, and the woman should be the sole care giver to the children. I don't think either gender should be forced to observe those guidelines, but I think they make for a longer lasting relationship, wherein both genders are contributing equally but differently.

Now... I don't think women should be in the military. A man goes to war to defend his country, and to defend the women and children back at home. I think that if women truly want equality, and truly want to be able to hold military positions, we should ask them if they would also like to be included in the draft.

Ziggy wrote:I really do hope for the sake of your future partners/wives/girlfriends that this misogyny is playful, even though it's horribly sexist regardless.

I realize that we've been trained to recognize any talk of differences between genders as "sexist," but c'mon now. This isn't misogyny. There is no hatred toward women here. I think it is a man's responsibility to provide for his wife to the best of his abilities, and to cater to all of her wants and needs.

Realizing that, in the very least, society has shaped the roles of men and women, and that those broader roles are very compatible, has nothing to do with a hatred toward women.

I believe that woman should have the same right for anything a man does and the thing about having to include woman is mandatory for almost all busniesses is right as well. It eliminates that the person would never hire them, like Affirmative Action.

At the military one, I also believe they should have some roles through volunteering, but to incoporate them into the draft is the wrong thing to do. We would have a significant amount of less woman back home to help. As for now, atleast, the draft hasn't been broght back at all.

Ruski wrote:I believe that woman should have the same right for anything a man does and the thing about having to include woman is mandatory for almost all busniesses is right as well. It eliminates that the person would never hire them, like Affirmative Action.

Affirmative Action just breeds loathing in the work place for minorities. When a business is forced to hire someone, it means there was someone else more qualified to do the job. Thus, the person being hired is not necessarily competent at their job. All of the other employees dislike this person, because they are not fully competent, and loath the system for the incompetence it causes.

In reality, racism exists, but not to the extent that some seem to think. Businesses, for the most part, hire people who are best suited for a job. Affirmative Action forces people to hire based on skin color, rather than their skills, and so is perpetuating racism, as it is saying, "Skin color matters!"

Ruski wrote:At the military one, I also believe they should have some roles through volunteering, but to incoporate them into the draft is the wrong thing to do. We would have a significant amount of less woman back home to help. As for now, atleast, the draft hasn't been broght back at all.

But if women were drafted, there would be men back at home to fill their place, would there not? Incorporating women into the draft would be the ultimate act of complete equality. While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

hmmm, depends how you define "benefit" ;)

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

Separate but equal. Men and women should have separate but equal household roles. Men and women should have separate but equal roles in society as a whole. Women don't get to have urinals in their bathrooms because they are not suited to their... anatomy.

ReconToaster wrote:

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

Separate but equal. Men and women should have separate but equal household roles. Men and women should have separate but equal roles in society as a whole. Women don't get to have urinals in their bathrooms because they are not suited to their... anatomy.

Oh yeah

separate but equal, it worked magically before!

Gauz wrote:

separate but equal, it worked magically before!

Except I'm not promoting when we had before.

Gauz wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

Separate but equal. Men and women should have separate but equal household roles. Men and women should have separate but equal roles in society as a whole. Women don't get to have urinals in their bathrooms because they are not suited to their... anatomy.

Oh yeah

separate but equal, it worked magically before!

It wasn't separate but equal, it was separate and unequal. That's the difference between what we are talking about now and what segregation was.

Death no more wrote:

Gauz wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

Separate but equal. Men and women should have separate but equal household roles. Men and women should have separate but equal roles in society as a whole. Women don't get to have urinals in their bathrooms because they are not suited to their... anatomy.

Oh yeah

separate but equal, it worked magically before!

It wasn't separate but equal, it was separate and unequal. That's the difference between what we are talking about now and what segregation was.

Learn you some history boy.

When America was segregated the term was "separate but equal", but it wasn't.

Gauz wrote:

Death no more wrote:

Gauz wrote:

ReconToaster wrote:

TNine wrote:

Rotaretilbo wrote:While we're at it, we can get rid of gender discriminating bathrooms.

That has to do with privacy and sexuality, not differences. A man can't see a woman changing or vice versa by the rules of our society. Seperate but equal (but in this case, actually equal, not the discrimination against blacks).

Neither side would benefit from sharing bathrooms.

Separate but equal. Men and women should have separate but equal household roles. Men and women should have separate but equal roles in society as a whole. Women don't get to have urinals in their bathrooms because they are not suited to their... anatomy.

Oh yeah

separate but equal, it worked magically before!

It wasn't separate but equal, it was separate and unequal. That's the difference between what we are talking about now and what segregation was.

Learn you some history boy.

When America was segregated the term was "separate but equal", but it wasn't.

Ya I know the term, but it wasn't that way. So you cant really say that separate but equal didn't work because in segregation it was separate and unequal. That term was used to defend the Jim Crow laws and segregation.