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Rotaretilbo wrote:

Spartan15 wrote:Doesn't that make you wonder why other countries treat America like shit if they are getting involved with every known fight between other countries?

No, not really. I would expect that people would treat the UN like shit for failing so hard that someone else has to do their job.

Spartan15 wrote:For example, when Russia and Georgia had there little disagreement a couople of years ago, America was quick to get involved and warn Russia to back off rather than let the two countries sort it out themselves.

You think that Russia and Georgia were going to work things out? If, by work things out, you mean Russia would pressure Georgia into returning, and probably end up using military force, then yes, they would have worked things out. At the cost of how many lives is yet to be seen.

Spartan15 wrote:Fair enough America were sticking up for Georgia because Russia would of wiped them out but my point is

It's funny, the first example that comes to your mind is actually one where America is justified.

Spartan15 wrote:America simply don't know when to stop and just let the countries that are fighting sort it out.

What do you mean? We told Russia to back off and to solve things diplomatically, and then we were done. Russia and Georgia solved their issues and moved on. If you're going to bring up an example of us getting involved and not leaving, you should be pointing out South Korea or Taiwan. Of course, you can't, because if we didn't get involved, North Korea would have slaughtered South Korean civilians for the lulz, and China would have bombed Taiwan into an uninhabitable island. And one can't be surprised that France, Germany, and Russia were against the Second Gulf War, when under the counter, all were make huge illegal profits in the Oil for Food Scandal. As I recall, one of the people arrested in the Oil for Food Scandal was a personal friend of former President Jacques Chirac.

Spartan15 wrote:I have nothing against America or Americans. It just gets frustrating how they are involved in pretty much every argument between other countries.

The issue is, some third party has to be involved. The UN is supposed to, but their too busy sitting on their asses doing nothing to be bothered to fix anything. I mean, look at the one issue America is not directly involved in: the genocide in Darfur! Do you see those people working out their problems peacefully? No. Do you see anyone else fixing the problem? No. As it stands, three hundred thousand civilians are dead, and near three million have fled. Meanwhile, the UN's meager ten thousand peacekeeper force can't be bothered to do its own job. The translators are on strike because they haven't been paid yet, and the peacekeepers themselves aren't allowed to defend the civilians.

This is the alternative to America getting involved in everything. Liking it, so far?

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Spartan15 wrote:that way America wouldn't be so disliked by a lot of other countries around the globe.

KristallNacht wrote:

Spartan15 wrote:that way America wouldn't be so disliked by a lot of other countries around the globe.

america isn't all that disliked. Even the Iraqi people are seeing us in a good light.



on a side note
If america locked up its borders and completely stopped associating with foreign countries we'd immediately become the envy of the world since we're one of the few countries that could self sustain.

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Spartan15 wrote:Yes i am seeing where you are coming from with this Rotaretilbo but i still don't understand why America think they should get involved just because the U.N. doesn't for some reason or other. America shouldn't be the third party to get involved and nor should any other countries except the U.N. as it's there responsibility to deal with matters like that. Even if, as you say that "The translators are on strike", the U.N. should still be able to find an alternative around the problem and that way America wouldn't be so disliked by a lot of other countries around the globe. It's just a simple matter of the U.N. getting off their lazy asses and doing their job properly.

Rotaretilbo wrote:

Spartan15 wrote:Yes i am seeing where you are coming from with this Rotaretilbo but i still don't understand why America think they should get involved just because the U.N. doesn't for some reason or other. America shouldn't be the third party to get involved and nor should any other countries except the U.N. as it's there responsibility to deal with matters like that. Even if, as you say that "The translators are on strike", the U.N. should still be able to find an alternative around the problem and that way America wouldn't be so disliked by a lot of other countries around the globe. It's just a simple matter of the U.N. getting off their lazy asses and doing their job properly.

Ah, but you see the problem there? The UN should, but they don't. So our options are either let the world go to hell or try to fix it at the cost of everyone hating us for some reason.

KristallNacht wrote:Japan doesn't dislike America. We provide them with Military Security.

Without us they'd be speaking Chinese

Spartan15 wrote:

KristallNacht wrote:Japan doesn't dislike America. We provide them with Military Security.

Without us they'd be speaking Chinese

Just because you provide them with military security doesn't mean that they neccesarily like America..

Nocbl2 wrote:

Spartan15 wrote:

KristallNacht wrote:Japan doesn't dislike America. We provide them with Military Security.

Without us they'd be speaking Chinese

Just because you provide them with military security doesn't mean that they neccesarily like America..

Yeah, we kinda nuked them a few decades ago... yeah, sorry about that Japan. We didn't think it would... you know... obliterate everything.... yeah...