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Post by Nocbl2 on Fri May 21, 2010 8:03 am

Came from the "synthetic life" thread in General Discussion.

I think Mars would be a great place to set up shop. We'd need a hell of a lot of money, but hey, it's fucking Mars!
About people having like 500 babies... yeah, no.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Indecisive One. on Fri May 21, 2010 8:54 am

Mars would be awesome. But lets be realistic. Equipment and supplies would need to be transported to mars. So for at least the near future a colony on mars is impossible with the current economical situation and mordern day science and technology.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Ruski on Fri May 21, 2010 8:55 am

The moon would be more ideal since it's closer and easier to work with.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Vigil on Fri May 21, 2010 9:17 am

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Angatar on Fri May 21, 2010 11:15 am

Mars has an atmosphere, is larger, and has higher gravity. Mars appears to be the better choice.

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Rotaretilbo on Fri May 21, 2010 1:50 pm

It's also a touch far away.

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Cheese on Fri May 21, 2010 3:38 pm

Moon first then Mars. These are the rules.

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Fri May 21, 2010 4:26 pm

Im pretty sure tthe US just abandoned the Moon and that we are shooting for Mars

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Cheese on Fri May 21, 2010 4:40 pm

What happened to the whole 'the moon is the pitstop to the entire universe' thing?

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by PiEdude on Fri May 21, 2010 5:08 pm

Meh.

NASA needs a LOT more funding, and with the economic situation, that's just not going to happen any time soon.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Angatar on Fri May 21, 2010 11:04 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:It's also a touch far away.
I believe that we should be focused on something that will yield better results than something that is quicker.

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by KrAzY on Fri May 21, 2010 11:29 pm

it takes a fuckload of fuel to just get off of earth... without a base on the moon to resupply, a manned flight to mars would be impossible simply due to cargo capacity needed for all the supplies humans would need for the 3-6 month journey there
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Nocbl2 on Fri May 21, 2010 11:32 pm

KrAzY wrote:it takes a fuckload of fuel to just get off of earth... without a base on the moon to resupply, a manned flight to mars would be impossible simply due to cargo capacity needed for all the supplies humans would need for the 3-6 month journey there
Yeah, a moon base would probably required first. What might be feasible in the near future is having construction robots arrive in advance of humans and create a moon base and begin the terraforming process. Humans arrive when the base is complete and continue terraforming, or focus resources on Mars instead.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Ringleader on Sat May 22, 2010 1:38 am

Hey, I'm all for terraforming Mars.

...So long as there is no life on it that had not originated on earth prior. If life had originated on earth and then had become transferred to Mars, or vice versa, I guess it would still be alright.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Angatar on Sat May 22, 2010 2:05 am

KrAzY wrote:it takes a fuckload of fuel to just get off of earth... without a base on the moon to resupply, a manned flight to mars would be impossible simply due to cargo capacity needed for all the supplies humans would need for the 3-6 month journey there
I didn't say that we should completely skip over the Moon, just not try and make it Earth. Mars would be much better.

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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sat May 22, 2010 8:58 am

Im pretty sure that alot of NASA's funding went to stuff like this
http://www.physorg.com/news174031552.html

Makes sense, really. Why should we continue to do what we have been doing with old tech when we can improve the technology and go even further?

I really wonder about what happened to Project Prometheus though


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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by PiEdude on Sat May 22, 2010 9:04 am

Ringleader wrote:Hey, I'm all for terraforming Mars.

...So long as there is no life on it that had not originated on earth prior. If life had originated on earth and then had become transferred to Mars, or vice versa, I guess it would still be alright.

Are you absolutely positive you're not the reincarnation of Carl Sagan?
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by KrAzY on Sat May 22, 2010 4:59 pm

Angatar wrote:
KrAzY wrote:it takes a fuckload of fuel to just get off of earth... without a base on the moon to resupply, a manned flight to mars would be impossible simply due to cargo capacity needed for all the supplies humans would need for the 3-6 month journey there
I didn't say that we should completely skip over the Moon, just not try and make it Earth. Mars would be much better.


well obviously we would never terraform the moon, I thought that was implied

we do need to figure out how to build self-sustaining bases in space... on the moon... before we even attempt at mars though

for such a long journey, I think you would probably even be forced to give a whole section of the ship to an oxygen regeneration system... aka a greenhouse... whihc you wouldn't be able to take off of the earth with
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Nocbl2 on Sat May 22, 2010 5:39 pm

KrAzY wrote:
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KrAzY wrote:it takes a fuckload of fuel to just get off of earth... without a base on the moon to resupply, a manned flight to mars would be impossible simply due to cargo capacity needed for all the supplies humans would need for the 3-6 month journey there
I didn't say that we should completely skip over the Moon, just not try and make it Earth. Mars would be much better.


well obviously we would never terraform the moon, I thought that was implied

we do need to figure out how to build self-sustaining bases in space... on the moon... before we even attempt at mars though

for such a long journey, I think you would probably even be forced to give a whole section of the ship to an oxygen regeneration system... aka a greenhouse... whihc you wouldn't be able to take off of the earth with
That and the fact that plants require water.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by Nocbl2 on Sat May 22, 2010 5:40 pm

kasrkin seath wrote:Im pretty sure that alot of NASA's funding went to stuff like this
http://www.physorg.com/news174031552.html

Makes sense, really. Why should we continue to do what we have been doing with old tech when we can improve the technology and go even further?

I really wonder about what happened to Project Prometheus though
We should use this to get to Mars and the Moon.
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by KrAzY on Sat May 22, 2010 6:52 pm

there is water on the moon... remember that rocket they shot at it a year ago? that was to check the water content of the impact... they found a lot
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Re: Terraforming Mars

Post by czar on Sat May 22, 2010 7:44 pm

Cheese wrote:Moon first then Mars. These are the rules.
Yeah , we need to moon to launch off of.
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