Re: The Oil Spill

by ReconToaster on Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:56 pm

KrAzY wrote:

and don't get me started on obama's reaction to this... this is MUCH more devistating than hurricane katrina, and instead of doing ANYTHING about it, obama is using it to push more laws through that people didn't like before the accident. fix the problem before trying to use it for your own political purposes you douchebag.

What is it that you expect him to do? Do you want him to send in the navy with buckets to scoop out the oil? Obama isn't an engineer, and he doesn't know how to fix an oil spill like this.

Obama is a politician. He's trying to pass legislation which might prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future, or, in the very least, allow us to actually punish future culprits.

by **KrAzY** on Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:15 pm

Obama turned down the help of 16 countries in the first month of the oil spill

he hasn't just negletced it and tried to use it to push his agenda... he actively turned down foreign help and in doing so made the disaster worse.

he is a politician, he hasn't allocated any funding to help the people, he has tied up funding for things like the sand walls, and he has turned down the help of foriegn aid because he thought it would make him look weak.

everyone jumped on bush about Katrina... at least he did more than go on photo shoots in the affected region after it happened

by Ringleader on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:36 am

Caused by JAWS

by Nocbl2 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:00 am

What we should do:

Nothing! Earth actually will recapture the oil eventually. It can be fixed naturally.

by **KrAzY** on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:16 am

um... no noc... the oil is destroying ecosystems and disrupting the lives of millions of people in the gulf....

by Nocbl2 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:15 am

KrAzY wrote:um... no noc... the oil is destroying ecosystems and disrupting the lives of millions of people in the gulf....

Well then fuck. You see, this is why we should use solar energy more...

Wait. If this is a well, that means we could just put a giant suction cup over it and suck the oil out, amirit3?

by **BBJynne** on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:00 am

THEY TRIED THAT ALREADY.... TWICE

by Gauz on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:11 am

yeah, they didn't plan for ice the first time. Now garbage is our only hope! They already tried that though I think...

by YouCurse on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:51 am

It's always the fucking Jews I tells ya.

by **Rotaretilbo** on Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:11 am

ReconToaster wrote: What is it that you expect him to do? Do you want him to send in the navy with buckets to scoop out the oil? Obama isn't an engineer, and he doesn't know how to fix an oil spill like this.

Obama is a politician. He's trying to pass legislation which might prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future, or, in the very least, allow us to actually punish future culprits.

I feel for Obama, but frankly, I wanted to see the media massacre him or eat their words, because last time I checked, Bush had no means to fix Katrina, and he was crucified for not being there every day with a bucket helping to bail the water out of St Louis. Until I either see Obama in work clothes with a bucket picking up oil balls off the beach or the entire mainstream media crucify him for not doing so, I will not be satisfied.

by ReconToaster on Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:52 am

Rotaretilbo wrote:

I feel for Obama, but frankly, I wanted to see the media massacre him or eat their words, because last time I checked, Bush had no means to fix Katrina, and he was crucified for not being there every day with a bucket helping to bail the water out of St Louis. Until I either see Obama in work clothes with a bucket picking up oil balls off the beach or the entire mainstream media crucify him for not doing so, I will not be satisfied.

After Katrina, new Orleans was essentially in chaos. There was complete lawlessness in the streets. People were looting houses, grocery stores, and doing basically whatever the hell they wanted. People were complaining that Bush wasn't doing enough to get the population under control.

Seeing as the president is supposed to enforce US law... he was kinda not doing his job. Still, I don't know what people expected him to do. Declare martial law I guess?

by ReconToaster on Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:06 am

KrAzY wrote:Obama turned down the help of 16 countries in the first month of the oil spill

he hasn't just negletced it and tried to use it to push his agenda... he actively turned down foreign help and in doing so made the disaster worse.

...he has turned down the help of foriegn aid because he thought it would make him look weak.

Taking time to consider multiple complicated offers does not equate to "turning down" the help of 16 countries. As of yet, Obama's administration has only turned down ONE offer, which involved the use of a French-made chemical not yet approved for use in America.

There are currently 15 foreign vessels working on cleaning up the oil spill.

KrAzY wrote:he is a politician, he hasn't allocated any funding to help the people, he has tied up funding for things like the sand walls...

Wait... I thought you wanted him to do something about the on-going spill? Either way, it's not the President's job to allocate funding. Congress has been working on setting up that fund for victims of the spill, but they're not going about that in an entirely constitutional way...

I'm sure you'd like to complain about that as well

by **KrAzY** on Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:16 am

its taken 3 months

there were 17 offers for IMMEDIATE help from foreign nations... Obama turned down ALL of them until 3 weeks ago

thats not "taking time to consider options" he blatantly turned down help... please at least look it up before trying to argue that he did the correct thing there

by Rasq'uire'laskar on Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:03 pm

ReconToaster wrote:After Katrina, new Orleans was essentially in chaos. There was complete lawlessness in the streets. People were looting houses, grocery stores, and doing basically whatever the hell they wanted.

Ahem.
It wasn't NEARLY that bad.
Shooting at the National Guard? No bullet holes were found on the helicopters.
Looting? By and large, people were going after food and blankets, not big-screen TVs.
Raping and drug overdosing in the football stadium? Way overblown by reporters.

People were complaining that Bush wasn't doing enough to get the population under control.

ReconToaster wrote:Seeing as the president is supposed to enforce US law... he was kinda not doing his job. Still, I don't know what people expected him to do. Declare martial law I guess?

Well, personally, I would've started out with artillery strikes to roust out the civvies and herd them, followed by incendiaries.

Joking aside, he really could've gotten more there faster, and FEMA preparedness was a joke.

As for the oil spill... I wanna see BP REALLY pay for this, and I wanna see federal oversight get cleaned out and working.

And fire up the rigs, let's move back to shallow water!

by **Vigil** on Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:49 pm

BP should be blamed, but they are not the only people to blame. There were other companies involved in that mess, and BP, while they deserve the massive amount of flak they're getting, I'm kinda pissed they've been singled out, as they're an easy scapegoat.

Obama went too far. I can understand that he was pissed about this, I would be, and he didn't want to look like Bush did after Katrina, but seriously, comparing the oil spill to 9/11 times by 1000 was not one of his smartest moves.

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