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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by CivBase on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:29 am

I mean the business in the world trade center -_-

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Vigil on Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:35 am

Business hasn't stayed there Civ.

Sure the stores around it still do what they do, but all the offices and business inside the towers have relocated

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Indecisive One. on Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:33 pm

I don't really care if they build it in NYC. But haave some decency if ur gonna, don't build it where a bunch of people died because of radical muslims.

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by HB on Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:06 am

while it is not in the constitution and whether or not it was radical muslims who caused the whole 9/11 disaster,
out of respect for those who lost their lives that day, i believe that ground zero should remain undisturbed and serve as a monument

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Ruski on Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:59 pm

HB wrote:while it is not in the constitution and whether or not it was radical muslims who caused the whole 9/11 disaster,
out of respect for those who lost their lives that day, i believe that ground zero should remain undisturbed and serve as a monument


It's not being built on the site.....

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by KristallNacht on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:19 pm

thy're already building a monument ON ground zero.


and there is already a christian church right next to ground zero, why can't mosque be further away?

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by HB on Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:01 am

Ruski wrote:
HB wrote:while it is not in the constitution and whether or not it was radical muslims who caused the whole 9/11 disaster,
out of respect for those who lost their lives that day, i believe that ground zero should remain undisturbed and serve as a monument


It's not being built on the site.....


oh

its not ON the site...

my apologies, but i could have sworn i heard that they wanted to build a mosque on ground zero

but next to it?

well i suppose it wouldn't matter...
nothing in the constitution says they cant build one next to it...

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Ruski on Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:07 am

According to a Yahoo! News Article:

No one has established a link between the cleric and radicals. New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said, "We've identified no law enforcement issues related to the proposed mosque."

Ros-Lehtinen and King were referring to the State Department's plan, predating the mosque debate, to send Rauf on another religious outreach trip to the Middle East as part of his "long-term relationship" with U.S. officials in the Bush and Obama administrations. The State Department said Wednesday it will pay him $3,000 for a trip costing the government $16,000.

Rauf counts former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright from the Clinton administration as a friend and appeared at events overseas or meetings in Washington with former President George W. Bush's secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, and Bush adviser Karen Hughes.

He has denounced the terrorist attacks and suicide bombing as anti-Islamic and has criticized Muslim nationalism. But he's made provocative statements about America, too, calling it an "accessory" to the 9/11 attacks and attributing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children to the U.S.-led sanctions in the years before the invasion.

In a July 2005 speech at the Bob Hawke Prime Ministerial Center in Adelaide, Australia, Rauf said, according to the center's transcript:

"We tend to forget, in the West, that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaida has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims."

While calling terrorism unjustified, he said the U.S. has supported authoritarian regimes with heinous human rights records and, faced with that, "how else do people get attention?"

In the same address, he spoke of prospects for peace between Palestinians and the Israelis — who he said "have moved beyond Zionism" — and of a love-your-neighbor ethic uniting all religions.

No mosque is going up at ground zero. The center would be established at 45-51 Park Place, just over two blocks from the northern edge of the sprawling, 16-acre World Trade Center site. Its location is roughly half a dozen normal lower Manhattan blocks from the site of the North Tower, the nearer of the two destroyed in the attacks.

The center's location, in a former Burlington Coat Factory store, is already used by the cleric for worship, drawing a spillover from the imam's former main place for prayers, the al-Farah mosque. That mosque, at 245 West Broadway, is about a dozen blocks north of the World Trade Center grounds.

Another, the Manhattan Mosque, stands five blocks from the northeast corner of the World Trade Center site.

To be sure, the center's association with 9/11 is intentional and its location is no geographic coincidence. The building was damaged in the Sept. 11 attacks and the center's planners say they want the center to stand as a statement against terrorism.

Bush, himself, while criticized at the time for stirring suspicions about American Muslims, traveled to a Washington mosque less than a week after the attacks to declare that terrorism is "not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace."

In any event, the U.S. armed forces field Muslim troops and make accommodations for them. The Pentagon opened an interfaith chapel in November 2002 close to the area where hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 slammed into the building, killing 184 people.

Muslims gather there for a daily prayer service Monday through Thursday and hold a weekly worship service on Fridays, drawing no complaints. Similar but separate services are provided for other faiths.


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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Vtrooper on Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:09 am

lets also remember, this could spawn international problems as well

to be honest though i have dubed this Stupidity of the Second Degree, 1st Amendment Dictates that Government cannot stop practice of religion, this is a waste of news time we COULD be using on... Middle East Peace talks or the War is Afganistan, or something more productive like what Fox 29 did today

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Re: Mosque next to groundzero

Post by Avenged on Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:11 am

I watched the interview of imam and from what I saw he is sorry about where he decided to put it but the problem is if he decides to move it the radical Muslims will get pissy and probally kill American soldiers and he does not want there to be violence.

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