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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:13 am

The M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle is about to enter testing within the Marine Corps as a functional replacement for the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon. Over 400 units are currently being distributed to a few battalions by H&K.

The M27 IAR is a 5.56mm full automatic rifle with a 30 round magazine. It looks much like the SCAR and M4.


The M249 SAW is a 5.56mm light machine gun that fires linked rounds, regularly set up in 100 round belts.


Does the M27 seem appropriate as a replacement for the M249s fire superiority role or does the clip size make it incompatible?

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by dragoon9105 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:15 am

Why would they commision an Assault rifle for a LMG's role?

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Post by KristallNacht on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:26 am

"to enhance the automatic rifleman's maneuverability and displacement speed"

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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:38 am

that makes no fucking sense... why not just get rid of that role all-together?

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by dragoon9105 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:41 am

If they plan on modifying the weapon to carry a drum magazine with more than 30 rounds i'm sure it can serve the role just fine. Why this rifle anyway? it doesn't seam any different than the M4 or M16

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Post by PiEdude on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 am

KristallNacht wrote:"to enhance the automatic rifleman's maneuverability and displacement speed"


By which they mean: "Spend less money producing rounds."

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by KristallNacht on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 am

why would you get rid of a Fire Superiority role? The purpose of fire superiority is to suppress the enemy from both returning fire and from maneuvering with constant fire.


I read up some more on the M27 and it technically can support the Beta C-Mag 100 round drum, but isn't being marketed to the Marine Corps with them, nor has it been proven to work effectively with them.

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by TNine on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:44 am

How quickly does the M27 empty its clip? A suppressive weapon should be able to do its job for a fairly long time, no?

An assault rifle with a large clip could fill the role, but i feel like a weapon that is suppossed to keep heads down should not be running out of bullets every 30 seconds.

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Post by laxspartan007 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:45 am

no...LMG's win...this shoots bullets of fail...

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by dragoon9105 on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:46 am

Hell wouldn't a modified M-16 do a better job at it than this, at least we know what the M16 can do

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by KristallNacht on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:48 am

dragoon9105 wrote:If they plan on modifying the weapon to carry a drum magazine with more than 30 rounds i'm sure it can serve the role just fine. Why this rifle anyway? it doesn't seam any different than the M4 or M16


The Marine Corps sent contracts out for an IAR to 8 different weapons manufacturers, this is what won overall and is what H&K offered. A Modified version of the SCAR and some others were entered. The 'competition' was simply for a weapon to replace the SAW that weighed less and was more reliable.

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by KristallNacht on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:49 am

dragoon9105 wrote:Hell wouldn't a modified M-16 do a better job at it than this, at least we know what the M16 can do


they actually have the M16 HBAR that is an m16 modified for sustained fire capabilities.

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by KrAzY on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:51 am

the H&K M27 will not jam under any tested circumstances, is highly modifiable, is lighter, is more accurate... a damn good gun if you ask me


and it does handle higher capacity drums just fine... not sure why they wouldn't be marketed to the marines without them if they are being used to replace a machine gun though


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Re: M27 introduction

Post by TNine on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:53 am

KrAzY wrote:the H&K M27 will not jam under any tested circumstances, is highly modifiable, is lighter, is more accurate... a damn good gun if you ask me

But is it better for a suppressive role?

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Re: M27 introduction

Post by KrAzY on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:56 am

its rate of fire is higher than that of the M249, it weighs less, and the internal components do not overheat

yes, it is a good replacement



and did I mention that the damn thing WILL NOT JAM... you can bury the thing in sand, shake it once and start firing it right away

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