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Post by BBJynne on Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:11 am

What is the best tank in the world?

I say probably M1A2 because it has computer aided stuff and kicks ass, but Garen can spin, so Garen is the best.

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Gauz on Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:12 am

Cho'gath

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Ascendant Justice on Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:15 am



Your move

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by BBJynne on Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:58 am

M1A2 wins by actually existing in this universe.

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Rotaretilbo on Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:22 am

I would argue that the Leopard 2 is superior to the M1A2, but both the US military and the German military keep the exact specs secret, so scrutinizing the two is difficult.

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Ascendant Justice on Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:27 am

I raise you a Soviet T-34 then

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by CivBase on Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:34 am



Check out the pic at the bottom of this article

I just did a google images search for "future tank" Razz

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:52 am

BBJynne wrote:What is the best tank in the world?

I say probably M1A2 because it has computer aided stuff and kicks ass, but Garen can spin, so Garen is the best.

Israeli Merkava.
Wins because it has specs on par with the M1A1, yet it has room for a group of soldiers to hitch a ride. Like a Russian Hind.

And which episode of Suziyama Haruhi is your sig from?

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by YouCurse on Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:46 pm

Scorpion Tank.
That thing is OP as fuck on Hemo-rage

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by BBJynne on Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:49 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:And which episode of Suziyama Haruhi is your sig from?

the one where they have a gaming contest with the computer club

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Rotaretilbo on Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:59 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:Israeli Merkava.
Wins because it has specs on par with the M1A1, yet it has room for a group of soldiers to hitch a ride. Like a Russian Hind.


It looks about the same size as the Abrams. Where do these soldiers hitch a ride that they couldn't on a tank like the Abrams or Leopard?

Anyway, this whole topic isn't exactly new.

Rotaretilbo wrote:Well, let's compare.

Main Weapon
All three tanks have 120mm cannons, though the Challenger deviates, using rifling, whereas the Abrams and Leopard prefer smoothbore. Generally a tie, though I think it is noteworthy that the Leopard carries exactly forty-two rounds for its weapon.

Secondary Weapons
The Abrams has one 12.7mm and two 7.62mm machine guns. The Leopard has two 7.62mm machine guns. The Challenger also has two 7.62mm machine guns. However, unlike the other two, the Leopard's machine guns are of German design (much like the tank), giving it an edge as far as secondary weapons go.

Armor
All three tanks use composite armor. The Abrams uses Chobham (composite ceramic), but also employs steel plating and optional depleted uranium mesh plating, though this optional plating seriously reduces its effective range and speed. The Leopard uses composite steel and tungsten on a ceramic base, similar to Chobham. The Challenger uses Dorchester (Chobham Generation 2), which is also a composite ceramic type of armor. The Challenger 2 is probably the better protected of these three.

Speed and Effective Range
The Abrams employs a new turbine-gas engine which gives it 1500 horse power, a max speed of around 42 miles per hour, but an effective range of only 290 miles. The Leopard employs a 12-cylinder diesel engine which gives it 1500 horse power, a max speed of around 45 miles per hour, and an effective range of around 340 miles. The Challenger also employs a 12-cylinder diesel engine, but only gets 1200 horse power, has a max speed of only 37 miles per hour, and an effective range of around 280 miles. Overall, the Leopard does significantly well, having the highest max speed and effective range. The Abrams cylinder-gas engine is a bit more delicate, and guzzles gas worse than regular engines.

Overall, I chose the Leopard. It had several things going for it, like German design. It's weapons are about as powerful (if not more so) and its armor not quite as thick, but it can outmaneuver either of its competitors.


That's from the last thread concerning the best tank, and my opinion hasn't changed.

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by Elabajaba on Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:08 am

Rotaretilbo wrote:
Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:Israeli Merkava.
Wins because it has specs on par with the M1A1, yet it has room for a group of soldiers to hitch a ride. Like a Russian Hind.


It looks about the same size as the Abrams. Where do these soldiers hitch a ride that they couldn't on a tank like the Abrams or Leopard?


It's turret is located in the back, and it has an emergency exit on the back which lets people get in and out of the tank quickly and safely.

Also, they all have a 60mm mortar.

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by BBJynne on Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:57 am

No matter which tank you may like the best, the M1A2 was constructed with an important ingredient absent from all others: BURRNING AMERICAN FREEEEEDOMMMM!!!!

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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by KristallNacht on Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:13 am

fail. the Abrams doesn't use gas, it uses JP-8 which is jet fuel. All vehicles used by the military pretty much use JP-8. And its max speed of 42 mph is caused by a limiter, not the actual power of the engine. The tank commander also has a M2 .50 cal.

the Abrams also carries exactly 42 rounds.

The Abrams also has 5+ different round types for different scenarios including HEAT shaped charges and a 'shotgun' style anti-infantry/anti-air round.

And the Abrams effective attack range is 12km.


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Re: Superior Tankin'

Post by KristallNacht on Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:19 am

wow rot. you REALLY dropped the ball on that tank thing. you just leave out information and who the fuck would ever think 50 cal + 7.62 + 7.62 < 7.62 + 7.62.

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