Entitlement
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Entitlement
Sometime, it amazes me that anybody is still producing games for the PC.
I've seen a few of these play out, and I have to wonder. Just where is this sense of entitlement coming from? Do gamers as a group not realize how little $60 buys in the real world? Is it just a problem of perspective? I mean, what is it?

I've seen a few of these play out, and I have to wonder. Just where is this sense of entitlement coming from? Do gamers as a group not realize how little $60 buys in the real world? Is it just a problem of perspective? I mean, what is it?

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Re: Entitlement
well, there is still the fact that that $60 across a lot of people is a lot
look at minecraft. only fairly serious pc gamers know about it, and notch has made $20mil, and isn't doing shit to finish the game.
there is a certain extent to which developers need to actually act like they care about us.
look at minecraft. only fairly serious pc gamers know about it, and notch has made $20mil, and isn't doing shit to finish the game.
there is a certain extent to which developers need to actually act like they care about us.

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Re: Entitlement
Minecraft is made by a single guy though. Can't expect him to work as fast as a team.
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Re: Entitlement
theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.
and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?
he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.
and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?
he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.

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That was a good read. Well, good in the sence of interesting to read, but not so good in the sence of what gamers do/did to the medium that they love so much. I mean, I'm no "perfect gamer" by any means of the phrase...but damn if they're aren't some assholes and douchebag gamers out there. Oh hell, who am I fooling. I bet I'm guilty of something when it comes to being a gamer. 
Anyways, some of these incidents I did not know about so I was surprised by some of them. Especially the Minecraft hack attack.
Also, Case #4 seems all too familiar, wouldn't you say?
Anyways, some of these incidents I did not know about so I was surprised by some of them. Especially the Minecraft hack attack.
Also, Case #4 seems all too familiar, wouldn't you say?

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oh and btw, i wasn't backing up what they did to minecraft, but much more recently, ln the last months he's been doing very little.
back then he was doing stuff regularly
back then he was doing stuff regularly

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KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.
and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?
he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.
That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.
Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.

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'make a living'...
you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?
and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content
you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?
and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content

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With the amount of money he is making, he should be pumping out more content for the game. Lately the updates have contained little and have been infrequent.
And he should thow in some of the mods that people have made, at least as things tthat someone can turn on/off easily.
And he should thow in some of the mods that people have made, at least as things tthat someone can turn on/off easily.
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Re: Entitlement
Vigil wrote:KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.
and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?
he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.
That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.
Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.
I think this makes up for any lack of progress made during the last 3-4 years.


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KristallNacht wrote:'make a living'...
you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?
and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content
I call that BS, NT. If he took existing mods and made them official content, y'all would be whining about him not doing any real work and making cash off the work of modders.
Dud Doodoo wrote:Vigil wrote:KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.
and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?
he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.
That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.
Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.
I think this makes up for any lack of progress made during the last 3-4 years.
Oh, yes, yes, YES!
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Re: Entitlement
Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:KristallNacht wrote:'make a living'...
you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?
and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content
I call that BS, NT. If he took existing mods and made them official content, y'all would be whining about him not doing any real work and making cash off the work of modders.
but at least we'd be whining about it while more and more features are being added to the server builds. we'll never know.
but instead, notch has shown images of a new launcher....because a new launcher is more important that chunk glitches, and content...

KristallNacht- Unholy Demon Of The Flame
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Re: Entitlement
Maybe people lose perspective because people are essentially animals and whenever the scope of their environment expands, so does their expectations.
It's certainly not a bad thing that people have unrealistically high expectations.
It's certainly not a bad thing that people have unrealistically high expectations.

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Re: Entitlement
It is when those unrealistically high expectations effectively destroy an entire platform of gaming because people are self-entitled dicks.
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Re: Entitlement
I found another article to add to this.
http://www.destructoid.com/and-you-wonder-why-developers-hate-pc-gamers--193957.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/and-you-wonder-why-developers-hate-pc-gamers--193957.phtml

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