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Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:45 am

Sometime, it amazes me that anybody is still producing games for the PC.

I've seen a few of these play out, and I have to wonder. Just where is this sense of entitlement coming from? Do gamers as a group not realize how little $60 buys in the real world? Is it just a problem of perspective? I mean, what is it?


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Re: Entitlement

Post by KristallNacht on Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:50 am

well, there is still the fact that that $60 across a lot of people is a lot

look at minecraft. only fairly serious pc gamers know about it, and notch has made $20mil, and isn't doing shit to finish the game.

there is a certain extent to which developers need to actually act like they care about us.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Lord Pheonix on Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:06 am

Minecraft is made by a single guy though. Can't expect him to work as fast as a team.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by KristallNacht on Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:22 am

theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.

and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?

he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Divine Virus on Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:59 am

That was a good read. Well, good in the sence of interesting to read, but not so good in the sence of what gamers do/did to the medium that they love so much. I mean, I'm no "perfect gamer" by any means of the phrase...but damn if they're aren't some assholes and douchebag gamers out there. Oh hell, who am I fooling. I bet I'm guilty of something when it comes to being a gamer. Sad

Anyways, some of these incidents I did not know about so I was surprised by some of them. Especially the Minecraft hack attack.

Also, Case #4 seems all too familiar, wouldn't you say? Razz

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Re: Entitlement

Post by KristallNacht on Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:04 am

oh and btw, i wasn't backing up what they did to minecraft, but much more recently, ln the last months he's been doing very little.

back then he was doing stuff regularly

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Vigil on Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:41 am

KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.

and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?

he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.


That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.

Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by KristallNacht on Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:30 am

'make a living'...


you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?

and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:06 pm

With the amount of money he is making, he should be pumping out more content for the game. Lately the updates have contained little and have been infrequent.

And he should thow in some of the mods that people have made, at least as things tthat someone can turn on/off easily.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Dud Doodoo on Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:19 pm

Vigil wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.

and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?

he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.


That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.

Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.


I think this makes up for any lack of progress made during the last 3-4 years.


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Re: Entitlement

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:42 pm

KristallNacht wrote:'make a living'...


you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?

and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content

I call that BS, NT. If he took existing mods and made them official content, y'all would be whining about him not doing any real work and making cash off the work of modders.

Dud Doodoo wrote:
Vigil wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:theres actually 6 of them now. with still zero coming out.

and how hard is it to take the existing super awesome mods and turn them into real content?

he actually worked more before minecraft had a fan base.


That was before it well noticed and now there'e a lot more pressure on him and his group to perform, and he's still trying to set up his company and try to make a living out of this.

Look at this forums attempt at a mod. It's only got to the beta stage after 3 years of development.


I think this makes up for any lack of progress made during the last 3-4 years.


Oh, yes, yes, YES!

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Re: Entitlement

Post by KristallNacht on Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:12 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
KristallNacht wrote:'make a living'...


you are aware he has made over $10m himself.....right?

and once again, not hard to take existing mods and make them official content

I call that BS, NT. If he took existing mods and made them official content, y'all would be whining about him not doing any real work and making cash off the work of modders.


but at least we'd be whining about it while more and more features are being added to the server builds. we'll never know.

but instead, notch has shown images of a new launcher....because a new launcher is more important that chunk glitches, and content...

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Ringleader on Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:49 pm

Maybe people lose perspective because people are essentially animals and whenever the scope of their environment expands, so does their expectations.


It's certainly not a bad thing that people have unrealistically high expectations.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Rotaretilbo on Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:44 pm

It is when those unrealistically high expectations effectively destroy an entire platform of gaming because people are self-entitled dicks.

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Re: Entitlement

Post by Divine Virus on Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:57 pm

I found another article to add to this.

http://www.destructoid.com/and-you-wonder-why-developers-hate-pc-gamers--193957.phtml

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