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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Divine Virus on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:52 pm

Wow, I guess we did need this thread. Razz

Good call Civ.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:53 pm

Divine Virus wrote:Wow, I guess we did need this thread. Razz

Good call Civ.
I get the feeling that Ringleader is arguing because the thread is here, not the other way around.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:00 pm

But, I thought I already kinda addressed holograms, already...

Cortana isn't even the same color in Halo CE when on the bridge of the POA and the Control Room, so it's a matter of where she's visually displayed. Plus, she can change her color at whim (her eyes change color in the Control Room), it wouldn't really be a big deal if she was a scrolling rainbow, it would be stupid, but it wouldn't be completely unrealistic as say, actual physical things, changing color, for no apparent reason.

So can Elite make his armor change color when he wants to? What about a spaceship? Marines too?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:07 pm

Vtrooper wrote:so this is over Cortana's color...

i honestly though the change was because of graphics.
It wasn't really ever about Cortana, apparently if she changes colors on different platforms on different ships and installations, then it makes sense for the physical aliens to change their entire color palate too...
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:07 pm

TNine wrote:
Vtrooper wrote:so this is over Cortana's color...

i honestly though the change was because of graphics.
Err...no. Ringleader was talking about how there had been no real palette changes throughout the games.
This.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:09 pm

Were Elites ever Purple? Last i checked, they were gray-blue (the Minors, of course).

Good god, those parenthesis made me feel like such a nerd.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Rotaretilbo on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:00 pm

The question you have to ask yourself is this: what possible gain is there in changing a fundamental aspect of an alien race as iconic as a color it uses obsessively? Given that there is no gain, we must ask "then why d it?" Why do something you know will piss off the hardcore fans if it doesn't have any benefit whatsoever in any way, shape, or form?

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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:02 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is this: what possible gain is there in changing a fundamental aspect of an alien race as iconic as a color it uses obsessively? Given that there is no gain, we must ask "then why d it?" Why do something you know will piss off the hardcore fans if it doesn't have any benefit whatsoever in any way, shape, or form?
To troll Ringleader?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:02 pm

Rotaretilbo wrote:The question you have to ask yourself is this: what possible gain is there in changing a fundamental aspect of an alien race as iconic as a color it uses obsessively? Given that there is no gain, we must ask "then why d it?" Why do something you know will piss off the hardcore fans if it doesn't have any benefit whatsoever in any way, shape, or form?
This,
THIS,
A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!!!




-343 Studios: This human, this, 'Ringleader' may become a serious threat, he must. be. eliminated, even if that means you must change iconic aspects of the game for no clear reason...

-Boba Fett: No, I can't DO something like that, find another person to do your dirty laundry Darth Shittious!
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by dragoon9105 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:33 pm

I love how people will complain about something as stupid as a color change. Really people, really?

heres a reality check, a rock is a rock, if i paint it blue, its still a rock, if i paint it red, its still a rock. Am i going to have a heart attack becuase i broke rock cannon, hell no.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:39 pm

Dragoon, you have a way with words.

Also, what brought you to TCF? What did you not like about Halo Wars?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by KristallNacht on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:42 pm

I'm confused....where exactly does it even show anything that is alien in the halo 4 trailer? or is this about halo anniversary?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:44 pm

LOUD NOISES!!!

I DON'T GET WHAT WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT!!!

YOU'RE SO STUPID AND HALO IS HEADED DOWNHILL!!!

Sorry, but this has got to be the stupidest argument ever to reach these forums.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by dragoon9105 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:46 pm

1. I didn't come to TCF becuase i dont like halowars.

2. In my Opinion i dont like halowars becuase its too simple for my tastes, i like RTS's with base building, Good balanceing, And more reliance on strategy and unit management. I dont like digital rock paper scissors, i can go on a long winded rant on why i dont think the game was worth 60 dollars and nitpick every, little, detail. But i'm not one to do that.

Tnine pretty much summed up this arguement in a nutshell
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:05 pm

TNine wrote:LOUD NOISES!!!

I DON'T GET WHAT WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT!!!

YOU'RE SO STUPID AND HALO IS HEADED DOWNHILL!!!

Sorry, but this has got to be the stupidest argument ever to reach these forums.
Someone here doesn't get what we're talking about? An argument over whether or not it's OK for the developers to go back and retcon their predecessors work, highly iconic imagery used in another companies flagship product (when you think Covenant, what are the first 5 things to come to mind? If you didn't say Purple, you fail Halo), for no reason at all other then the sake of changing it for no reason at all because they can.


NT, this is for the Halo CE anniversary, and that not many people seem to care a whole lot if they change things around for no reason, preserving the integrity and such.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:12 pm

Most of the Covies colors struck me as Bluish more than Purple. The ghost is purple, but the Wraith and the Phantom, as well as all the group troops, are most definitely blue or other colors. The inside of the ships were the same bluish purple, a little purpler than the wraiths.

Besides, the aesthetics of Halo switch every game, always has.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:41 pm

For the most part, the color palate for the Covenant had not been intentionally changed, as it made no sense and didn't add anything to the game in doing so, however the lighting and different engines may have made them appear with a different hue.

It's still a matter of changing things around for no reason for the sake of changing them around for no reason, nothing is to be gained from this alteration, and congruity is lost. Aesthetics as with making a higher detail Mjolnir armor is fine (between Halo 2 and 3), because they didn't drastically change the design for no reason while upping the amounts of detail, however the same cannot be said for the Covenant Elite from Halo 1-3 to Reach, as they upped the detail while changing the design for no reason.

So when you think of Covenant, what are the first 5 things that come to mind?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Lord Pheonix on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:45 pm

Zealots

Fanatics

Prophet

Brute

Elites

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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:45 pm

Wraiths, ghosts, banshees, Elites, Prophets. BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT COLORS!!!

Or, you know, wait for actual videos of the game to see if a slight loss of focus on purple really destroys the entire game...
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:46 pm

LP, when you think of Covenant, you think of... 'Fanatics', before you think of... grunts?

Who said anything about one thing destroying the game? This has always been about and always will be about an acumen of small defects slowly but surely ruining the franchise. They did say they were removing purple, so...


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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by TNine on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:48 pm

Ringleader wrote:LP, when you think of Covenant, you think of... fanatics, before you think of, grunts?
It was his line of logic. He wrote the first Covenant thing in his head, Zealot, and what is a Zealot? (in the real world). A fanatic.

From what i can see.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Ringleader on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:55 pm

It's still hard to believe you think of 'Zealot' before, alien, grunt, plasma, elite, sticky, banshee, ghost, wraith, CCS, Jackal, shield, oh and purple.

Well, when you think of Halo CE Covenant, what do you think of?

Aren't Covenant the classic purple aliens?
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by dragoon9105 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:57 pm

We have to argue over Lp's thought process now, naturally. Apparently its his thought process is wrong now. Wow just wow.
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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by Lord Pheonix on Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:58 pm

Well you said "Covenant" I thought about them as a group of aliens together and are all Zealots.


Zealots go down to Fanatics


The fanatics follow the prophets.


Prophets are a type of unit and so are the brutes who followed them


Brutes were units and as tough as Elites.

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Re: Blue vs Purple

Post by RX on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:26 am

My guess is that since the graphics have changed drasticly, the colours will change slightly too.
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