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Humvee Lite.

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:37 am

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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:05 am

I'm wondering what these design flaws you're talking about are. (I don't know the specs of this vehicle, just saw the pictures)

The only issue I can quickly identify is that any kind of mine will launch that thing ridiculously far.
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by tiny tim on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:11 am

Tires are not protected whatsoever, tires are ridiculously small across so they wouldn't have great traction, and it looks like it's made of plastic. Also fro ma couple of the pictures it looks like large portions of the undercarriage are exposed from behind. I can has cookie?

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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by Lord Pheonix on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:32 am

They are raving about how fast they made it?



It looks like its made out of fucking plastic and go cart parts.




Won't survive for a month in a combat zone (and that's a generous estimate)

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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by Death no More on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:14 pm

It only carries two people, it's tires are not protected at all, and it's front is very open to damage....
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by tiny tim on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:22 pm

The entire thing is open to damage, it's a freaking dune buggy with a plastic shell.

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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:32 pm

tiny tim wrote:Tires are not protected whatsoever,

There are no tactical vehicles with protected tires whatsoever.

tiny tim wrote: tires are ridiculously small across so they wouldn't have great traction,

They look only just smaller than modern hmmwv tires and not in the tire width, but in diameter.

tiny tim wrote: and it looks like it's made of plastic.

A lot of armor looks like plastic. It's likely coated with something other than CARC paint (because CARC is garbage)

tiny tim wrote:Also fro ma couple of the pictures it looks like large portions of the undercarriage are exposed from behind. I can has cookie?

There aren't really any views from the rear to show exactly what you mean. It generally looks like it is more covered than the M-ATV rear.
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 pm

Personally, I was thinking that there's no good mine protection, no rear doors so the passengers in the back seat can get out (Yeah, they can get out the back hatch, maybe, but I don't see how that works) and the front suspension is exposed.

I've also never been a fan of clamshell hoods. Too hard to work with.

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tiny tim wrote:Also fro ma couple of the pictures it looks like large portions of the undercarriage are exposed from behind. I can has cookie?

There aren't really any views from the rear to show exactly what you mean. It generally looks like it is more covered than the M-ATV rear.


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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:14 pm

The main issue is it uses an axle instead of geared-hub for the wheels, and of course, the less than bullet proof windows.

And clamshell hoods actually work a lot better, since you just hop up and have full access to the top. the only thing that is even mildly blocked is the radiator, which doesn't need to be accessed quickly.

and there is only 1 person in the back, and he's in the gunenr position, so his access point is over the vehicle
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by Rasq'uire'laskar on Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:43 pm

KristallNacht wrote:
And clamshell hoods actually work a lot better, since you just hop up and have full access to the top. the only thing that is even mildly blocked is the radiator, which doesn't need to be accessed quickly.
Nah, they just limit your options when it comes to working on a car. Ever work on a Mercedes? Hood opens to vertical, and it's hinged in the back. Much better, IMO.
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by KrAzY on Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:51 pm

im trying to figure out why exactly we would field this vehicle... it doesn't seem to have any merits that warrant it being used in place of a regular humvee in really any situation
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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by Kasrkin Seath on Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:30 pm

Reminds me of the Nod Buggy Razz
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Anyways, the main flaw I noticed was the lack of armor, particularly a "V" shaped piece underneath it to protect against Mines/IED's.

KrAzY wrote:im trying to figure out why exactly we would field this vehicle... it doesn't seem to have any merits that warrant it being used in place of a regular humvee in really any situation

No idea... I remember hearing from people that the military has been shifting towards lighter vehicles, or at least that it has wanted to. Then again, thats just what I've heard.

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Re: Humvee Lite.

Post by KristallNacht on Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:58 pm

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:
Nah, they just limit your options when it comes to working on a car. Ever work on a Mercedes? Hood opens to vertical, and it's hinged in the back. Much better, IMO.

except its extremely common to be taking the hood off of tactical vehicles when doing extensive work and driving them with the hoods off. On top of that, supporting the armored hood full vertical is significantly more difficult and dangerous than supporting it clamshell.

KrAzY wrote:im trying to figure out why exactly we would field this vehicle... it doesn't seem to have any merits that warrant it being used in place of a regular humvee in really any situation

Aside from it not being complete garbage?

Kasrkin Seath wrote:
No idea... I remember hearing from people that the military has been shifting towards lighter vehicles, or at least that it has wanted to. Then again, thats just what I've heard.

The Marine Corps has been big in pushing some lighter vehicles through. The main thing this would be used for is quick infiltration with sniper teams and the like, NOT typical convoy use.
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