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Post by KristallNacht on Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:40 am

http://defensetech.org/2010/09/22/army-may-issue-iphones-to-new-recruits/

I'll let you guys form opinions before I bring my Marine viewpoint up

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by tiny tim on Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:01 am

As someone who will likely e in basic training this time next year, I think it's a great tool. I think I already know what your viewpoint will be though.

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by CivBase on Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:50 am

Are they durable enough? Or do they intend to keep them off the field?


And.... while it might be a good idea to have a device like that, does it have to be the iPhone? They could make their own little gadget that is much more durable, a fraction of the cost, far more effective, and not subject to misuse and/or tampering.

I guess that would destroy their 'appeal to the younger generation' plan... but I just don't think the small increase in recruits would be worth the enormous cost, especially considering who is actually footing the bill (*cough* taxes *cough*)

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Post by Kasrkin Seath on Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:28 am

I pay taxes for this shit? I know its not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, but couldn't it be better spent on something else?

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:08 am

tiny tim wrote:As someone who will likely e in basic training this time next year, I think it's a great tool. I think I already know what your viewpoint will be though.


A great tool, how?

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by tiny tim on Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:21 am

KristallNacht wrote:
tiny tim wrote:As someone who will likely e in basic training this time next year, I think it's a great tool. I think I already know what your viewpoint will be though.


A great tool, how?


It would condense all of the manuals and books and various other training implements into one source that modern teenagers are more comfortable with. I've never had a cell phone or PDA or anything, so it wouldn't make as much of a difference to me. But it's still very useful. Also allows for interactive guides to things.

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:30 am

tiny tim wrote:
It would condense all of the manuals and books and various other training implements into one source that modern teenagers are more comfortable with. I've never had a cell phone or PDA or anything, so it wouldn't make as much of a difference to me. But it's still very useful. Also allows for interactive guides to things.


It also has a monthly bill, the ability to download angry birds, and the ability to call home (which all soldiers get in recruit training anyway). While those few things are good, all of that is already available online for the most part outside of recruit training, where they really won't be using any of it anyway, but where they still get to keep the government funded smartphone.

And isn't making the soldier more comfortable in training, reduce the ability to prepare them for their ultimate goal of combat and combat support?

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by tiny tim on Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:11 am

KristallNacht wrote:
tiny tim wrote:
It would condense all of the manuals and books and various other training implements into one source that modern teenagers are more comfortable with. I've never had a cell phone or PDA or anything, so it wouldn't make as much of a difference to me. But it's still very useful. Also allows for interactive guides to things.


It also has a monthly bill, the ability to download angry birds, and the ability to call home (which all soldiers get in recruit training anyway). While those few things are good, all of that is already available online for the most part outside of recruit training, where they really won't be using any of it anyway, but where they still get to keep the government funded smartphone.

And isn't making the soldier more comfortable in training, reduce the ability to prepare them for their ultimate goal of combat and combat support?


Did it say in that article that the soldiers would keep the phones after training? And if they are using technology they are more comfortable with, then they will likely learn the material better. And I'm sure there are ways to keep them from being able to download every app they want.

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Post by Vtrooper on Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:46 pm

isn't the IPhone's telecommunication lines unsecured? i find it a bad idea but should at least be tested to be sure.

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:39 pm

The article specifically says "and use throughout their careers" or the like.

And being 'comfortable' all the time makes you more likely to choke when somethings uncomfortable.


And, on top of that, these iphones are planned to be issued out by the Army, while the Marine Corps doesn't even have enough money to give everyone a camelbak, a proper plate carrier, individual rifles, and ACOG scopes.

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Post by PiEdude on Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:47 pm

KristallNacht wrote:The article specifically says "and use throughout their careers" or the like.

And being 'comfortable' all the time makes you more likely to choke when somethings uncomfortable.


And, on top of that, these iphones are planned to be issued out by the Army, while the Marine Corps doesn't even have enough money to give everyone a camelbak, a proper plate carrier, individual rifles, and ACOG scopes.


Let's hope they never have to read a manual in the middle of a firefight then...

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Post by Gauz on Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:01 pm

Fuck yeah Angry Birds for our soldiers!

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by RX on Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:26 pm

lol, the Iphones durability is utter shit. how do they expect them to withstand the usual punishment soldiers go through?

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by KristallNacht on Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:00 pm

Soldiers don't go through punishment, who has been lying to you?

and comfortability is a general thing. If you're never made uncomfortable, how are you going to be sure you can handle it when you are. They won't ever be reading a manual in combat anyway.

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Re: Army to begin issuing Iphones to Recruits

Post by Felix on Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:21 pm

Gauz wrote:Fuck yeah Angry Birds for our soldiers!


Maybe the way to win all wars is to have a competition of Angry Birds

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