Afterlife

Valhalla if you're a badass warrior.

You see, I just saw the words "most correct" and started assuming things from there.


But the best afterlife is....


dying and becoming a Lord Pheonix. Which is popular in some religions real and fictional...

EDIT: Like Arkantos in the end of AoM.

Elabajaba wrote:Valhalla if you're a badass warrior.

Pretty much a no across the board, then.

Lord Pheonix wrote:

Gauz wrote:dying and becoming a Lord Pheonix. Which is popular in some religions real and fictional...

Worked out for me

>.<

Religious debates will never be the same now...

Best afterlife = finite afterlife, or no afterlife at all.

Who would want their consciousness to extend on forever? That would be, like, the most horrendous thing to ever happen to you.

Every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every year would be infinitely less valuable in your eyes. How would you even perceive time? Our finite lives on earth rely on cumulative events and experiences that build us up, whereas if you lived on forever, you would, by the very nature of infinity, experience every possible experience, think every possible thought, do every possible thing, an infinite number of times. What would make us unique or special?

Impossible to say how our tiny, 3 lb brains would handle these scenarios, or which would be best for us. If I had to guess, I would imagine infinite amounts of bliss or infinite amounts time would be detrimental to our mental well being without serious modification to our personalities.

Consider this example, you could theoretically manufacture a drug that's 100 times more potent than even the strongest narcotics on the market today, in that it makes you feel really really REALLY good. For the sake of argument, let's say it doesn't kill you on the spot after taking it. What will you want to do after trying it just once?









Maybe one day, when medical technology allows us to translate people's minds on to computers, you could live on in a digital world of your own preference and design, while also being able to interact with the real world via robots should you chose to. You could literally make any sort of afterlife you want, unconstrained by the this physical world, or whatever afterlifes may possibly exist beyond. Kinda like the Matrix.

Heavenly bliss? No problem, I'll just upload you into our heavenly bliss server.

Wanna burn in hell? Hey, to each his own, I'll set you up, and remember, you can cancel the program any time you like.

If existing forever causes you to devalue your existence, what adds value to your existence in the first place?

what makes a steak dinner matter if you have infinite steak?



its the limit of something that makes it worth anything. Personally I can think of no greater torture than to exist eternally, no matter what condition I am in

CivBase wrote:If existing forever causes you to devalue your existence, what adds value to your existence in the first place?

Obviously not existing for ever, given that the average human lifespan nowadays is 67 years (globally).

Yet, I would say most of us value our lives enough to take decent care of ourselves and not fuck everything up. Valuing your life, self preservation is something hard wired into the brains of living things, because we once lived in a world that could very easily kill us at any moment. It's a favorable route to take on an evolutionary basis, value fleeting experiences, value life, increase the chances of survival and proliferation.

The finite aspect of your existence makes it more valuable, like how the finite supply of certain materials make them more valuable. If gold paved the streets, would it really be worth that much? Same goes for years in your life. Think if you shared your afterlife with your kids, and your grand kids, and your great grand kids, and your great great grand kids, and so on and so forth into infinity...

The best afterlife, fictional or real, would be eternal. At least to me, the boredom of paradise would be far better than the existential terror of your impending cessation of existence. Also consider that the Abrahamic religions at least quanitify everything with ∞. Lord Pheonix is ∞, The afterlife is ∞ long, and it will take ∞ time to get bored of it. The Infinite monkey theorem doesn't force you to take every possible action, it allows it, so individuals could still identify themselves based on their actions. but anyway


My favorite afterlife to think about is an amalgamation of where Jesus said there are many rooms in his mansion and something like a supernatural form of Ring's virtual reality. Eevery individual has their own fisher-space (that is, an area created to be the best fitted to the person, like an outdoorsy person sleeping under a waterfall, a literary person living in and roaming the halls of a great library, ect.)and is allowed to engage in scenarios of their choosing.

I've always thought of Hell as being an atheist in a world of assholes. No lake of fire or anything, just the universe as we know it, polluted and headed towards entropy, but with none of the positive aspects of religion or faith.

The beauty of life is experience. The universe is infinite, even with eternal life you would not be able to experience everything.

I value what i only have for a bit, but i still value what i will have forever. Some may be prepared to leave existence, but only because of the futility of fighting the inevitable, not because life is no longer worth living.

Lord Pheonix wrote:I would gladly kill you all for immortality.

More accurate?

I like Ring's idea. Basically existence as you see fit. Like... living in your favorite world! It'd be like normal existence in this world, except not because you're in a fictional one.